Optimus steps on him. Also Ultron isn't advanced enough to hack Optimus in the first place. Cybertronian Tech is still millions of years beyond human tech, and Tony's is beyond the humans in Transformers, but yeah he's not hacking Optimus.
I wouldn't discount Ultron being able to hack Prime, but it certainly wouldn't be quick, and there's no way to really estimate what kind of defenses their neural networks can mount, so makes sense that it's left out here.
True, but he did specify Ultron Prime. If he had just said Ultron, then everything would be fair game, seeing as Ultron itself is actually simply advanced, self-aware AI.
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Well, Optimus can also fly, as seen at the end of the last Transformers film, IIRC (didn't he decide to bugger off into space at the end?). And he is also pretty fast and mobile (even for his size), as seen when he fought multiple Decepticons at once, and was actually beating them until Megatron stabbed him from behind. Ultron's durability might be a bit of a challenge, but he himself would likely have quite a bit of difficulty doing any significant damage to Optimus.
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Optimus. I don't see Captain America being able to do anything to Optimus, whereas he giving Ultron a fight (albeit, a losing one, but still a fight).
Ultron Prime's partial vibranium body and repulsors won't be an issue in the long run, and the only trouble I see from Ultron is if his technopathy/magnetic control (whatever he led his fight against Tony with whenever he baited him with the start of a villain monologue) to manipulate Optimus, but if Iron Man held up against that, I'd say Optimus has the size, skill, and versatile armaments to put Ultron down.
And as Vault said above, he was taking on Decepticons 3-against-1 in Revenge of the Fallen and winning until Megatron's backstab.
Yeah, Ultron is phucked. And again, Prime's tech is literally lightyears more advanced than Ultron. If Jarvis could take him down, and he's a human made AI. Then what do you think a robot species who hacked the entire internet in a few minutes(including black sites and military instillations) will do when he tries to interface with him?
While it has little baring on this match, I would just like to point out that the version of Ultron Prime that Cap fought is vastly inferior to the Final Form version, as highlighted here by Ultron himself. The first one is like the version Iron Man/Cap fought. The one at the end was at Sokovia:
It was more than magnetism, but they never explain exactly how it works. Because he also used it to launch Cap off the back of the truck, during the highway fight, and the final Ultron Prime used it to toss a piece of stone pillar at Thor, as seen here, at around 0:10s:
Moot point, though, as he has no feats using that techno-tk (or whatever it was) on something as big as Optimus.
On a random note, why are people still discussing hacking? It was excluded in the OP to begin with.
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Last edited by TheVaultDweller on Dec 11th, 2016 at 02:48 AM
That's right, never stated how the techno tk stuff worked. And like you're saying, Vault, shouldn't be an issue for Optimus, as Ultron always used it against human-sized opponents.
They're different life-forms so obviously the direction of their civilization in terms of progress is different....but in no way shape or form could Cybertron defeat humans 1,000 years from now. I'm not even sure 300 years.
I think Ultron could win if he flew into Optimus and started blowing him up from inside...Optimus could win if he got off some solid hits....
Cap not being able to take Optimus has nothing to do with it. It's only size difference, and Ultron's flight and durability negate that.
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