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Clubber Lang vs. Ivan Drago

Both are in their primes and instead of Rocky flying to the Soviet Union it's Lang. Lang is still hungry to prove himself and Drago is still juiced up like an animal. Who wins ?


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Mmmmmmmm.....Clubber.


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Clubber doesn't have what it takes to wear-down Drago before Drago punches his face in.


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He'd probably kill Clubber Lang, I mean lets face it...Lang would just piss Drago right off


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He'd probably kill Clubber Lang, I mean lets face it...Lang would just piss Drago right off


Lang never had a proper training or inner-insight montage that was common in 80's films and crucial for the protagonist in overcoming his/her great obstacle. Lang has zero chance here.


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if lang had the ability to get drago past the 3rd round he would win..


drago slaughters him


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Lang never had a proper training or inner-insight montage that was common in 80's films and crucial for the protagonist in overcoming his/her great obstacle. Lang has zero chance here.
Are you kidding me ? Drago was a lot of hype. The only guy he beat was an out of prime apollo creed. And correct me if I am wrong but lang beat rocky also.


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I reckon Clubber would win this. Drago was all roids and no skill.
Clubber had the eye of the tiger.


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I reckon Clubber would win this. Drago was all roids and no skill.
Clubber had the eye of the tiger.
Plus people seem to think Lang went deep into a boxing match. he was a tyson fighter plain and simple. If you make it out of the first three rounds chances are he will gas but I don't see Drago making it out of the first three rounds.


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I'm not sure Clubber would win since Drago has more skill imo but Clubber has much more punching power


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No way, man. Drago's got a 2150 PSI punch. That's about 4 tons worth of force. In their rematch Rocky was eating Clubber's shots and asking for more.

Also, Rocky is significantly weaker than Drago, and dropped Clubber in 3 rounds, Ivan would destroy him in the 1st.

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Going by Rocky-ratings, Drago's punch is supposed to be about three times more powerful than other boxers.

Going by the films.

Lang beat an out of shape Rocky and killed an old man.

Drago killed a retired but still in great shape Creed.


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Creed also had a friendly match with Rocky between Rocky III and IV and judging by Rocky's face in the beginning of Rocky IV Apollo was still good.

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People downplaying Creed in Rocky 4 is just clown tactics. The guy obviously wasn't in his prime, but he still had it.

Footwork and speed is still there:



He just doesn't have Rocky's superhuman ability to mitigate tons-of-force punches.


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I personally don't see any argument to be made here. Lang did beat, Rocky but we were lead to believe, Rocky had become complacent and relatively out of shape. Once, Rocky employed a realistic and strategic fighting style other than brawling, he pretty much decimated, Lang.


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Rocky not being at fight-readiness and distracted in the first match was a major plot point of the film.


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No way, man. Drago's got a 2150 PSI punch. That's about 4 tons worth of force. In their rematch Rocky was eating Clubber's shots and asking for more.

Also, Rocky is significantly weaker than Drago, and dropped Clubber in 3 rounds, Ivan would destroy him in the 1st.

1 ton is two thousand pounds. He punches just harder than 1 ton, unless were thinking of different measurements.

But yeah, Drago hits him like he's never been hit before. I lean towards the Russian on this one.


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Clubber has much more punching power


What? Did you miss the scene in Rocky 4 where he outright stated to have over twice the punching power of a normal human?

Anyways, how is Clubber getting any support here? Drago was an outright superhuman who killed a man (who in the previous film was training Rocky and was in clear great shape here) in the ring nigh-effortlessly.

Rocky rope-a-doped Clubber. Okay. that's a durability feat for Rocky....WTF did Clubber do to make him superior to Drago? Beat an earlier Rocky who was:
A) not taking his training seriously
B blatantly distracted by his loved one dying at that exact moment
What else besides that?

Drago's literally built up to be the ultimate fighting machine, akin to a pugilist Terminator. Clubber might arguably be quicker, but he will eventually get hit, and as soon as he does, he will at the very least get disoriented, and from there he gets Apollo-ed.

As far as putting him down, Clubber only lasted as long as he did because Rocky purposely wasn't fighting back to save his strength. Drago on the other hand was trading blows with Rocky for IIRC 15 rounds. I think he can hang with Clubber until he gets an Apollo hit in.


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