ROTJ Luke Skywalker vs. ROTS Obi Wan (Lightsabers only)
1. EU versions
2. Canon versions
Battle takes place atop the Empire state building
__________________ "Happiness is a lie. Life is horror. The light is always dying all across the universe. The last star will flicker out someday, when it does, all that remains is shadow. And I will be its king!"'-Amahl Farouk
__________________ "Happiness is a lie. Life is horror. The light is always dying all across the universe. The last star will flicker out someday, when it does, all that remains is shadow. And I will be its king!"'-Amahl Farouk
Lucas Canon has Luke as only half trained. Not sure where Disney lies on the point yet.
Either way, Eu or Canon, even if we were to say ROTJ Luke is a fully trained Jedi and put him on par with TCW Anakin, he still should not be beating Kenobi, given even ROTS Vader could not beat him.
But the decider in Kenobi vs Anakin was emotional control, and Luke clearly had that down by RotJ. And him giving Vader such a great fight suggests his training time is irrelevant. Skywalker potential supersedes conventional training, always has.
__________________ “The galaxy must experience the pain of death and the rapture of rebirth as I have. I will bring chaos. It is time for war.”
Where is it said Luke only had half training?...I always keep seeing this and there's never any viable evidence other than.
"Oh well he didn't train as long as so and so."
That isn't really viable considering even by just movies, you have quotes and showings from those very powerful saying that he is strong, he has learned much, his skills are complete, etc and so on, so forth.
Oh I agree. Heck, Lucas himself contradicts the quote later on as he makes some of the best duelists cyborgs and old men despite dismissing the sword fighting in the prequels because of that.
That's why I said that was the case in the Old Lucas's Canon, but I'm not sure where the new Disney Canon places Luke as of ROTJ.
Those are different quotes that he contradicted.
The fact that he said Luke wasn't yet fully equipped to deal with Vader is proof Vader wasn't just some chump that someone can defeat with 4 years of self-training.
Last edited by Darth Thor on Apr 13th, 2015 at 12:35 PM
Apr 11th, 2015 05:38 PM
