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King Joker
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Toph vs. Katara

Who would out-bend the other?
Round 1: Full moon - NO BLOOD BENDING
Round 2: No full moon
Takes place on a rocky terrain with ocean nearby.

Jun 14th, 2014 07:27 PM

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I think I may be leaning towards Toph, Katara takes this during the full moon I think... not entirely sure...

Jun 14th, 2014 07:39 PM

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Katara was more smart than she was a legendary groundbreaking bender.

Toph created a whole new fighting style as well as created a whole new form of bending on her own that thousands would soon adopt in LOK

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That's good for Toph, but I don't think it has any bearing on the fight.

Jun 14th, 2014 09:53 PM

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It does when that bending prowess is what made her legendary in combat by age twelve.

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And since Katara is primarily stuck on the ground when fighting, she's at a disadvantage because of TOph's earth-sense.

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I was referring to her metalbending.

Jun 14th, 2014 10:46 PM

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Depends on the environment. Metal might be the hardest to gather, and smallest in size to use, but it had very durable usage.

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Jun 14th, 2014 11:32 PM

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Re: Toph vs. Katara

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Takes place on a rocky terrain with ocean nearby.

No metal.

Jun 14th, 2014 11:42 PM

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Besides, Katara can cut through metal.

Jun 14th, 2014 11:49 PM

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It took Katara and Aang a very long time to cut a foot or so into a single metal beam. So that doesn't mean much.

Regardless, even without metal bending, Toph holds an advantage in that she can see Katara's every move, sense where she is, and even see her heartbeat. Plus Toph could easily just make a massive wall to block Katara from the ocean.

Jun 15th, 2014 12:03 AM

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Katara has improved since that point.

Unless Katara is on ice, or on the ocean. And it depends whether or not Katara gets in the ocean before (if she) makes a giant wall. And if Toph does even do that, Katara can use water from the vegetation nearby.

Jun 15th, 2014 12:10 AM

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Katara has improved since that point.

Unless Katara is on ice, or on the ocean. And it depends whether or not Katara gets in the ocean before (if she) makes a giant wall. And if Toph does even do that, Katara can use water from the vegetation nearby.

Katara isnt legendary like toph is.

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Jun 15th, 2014 12:17 AM

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Re: Re: Toph vs. Katara

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No metal.

This seems sort of like gimping.

Anyone else think this seems sort of like gimping?

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Gimping?

Jun 15th, 2014 01:04 AM

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Gimping. Intentionally taking away some advantage from one character to help another one.

Toph can't use metal, but Katara has access to vegetation in a rocky area. That's gimping.

Jun 15th, 2014 01:22 AM

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'Nearby' is far enough for Toph to pin Katara down and crush her ankles. The advantage comes only if Katara manages to get Toph in the ocean, which I find unlikely.

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Jun 15th, 2014 01:24 AM

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quote: (post)
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Gimping. Intentionally taking away some advantage from one character to help another one.

Toph can't use metal, but Katara has access to vegetation in a rocky area. That's gimping.

I don't think that's unfair, Toph having metalbending would be a pretty major trump card, and I don't think Katara using some vegetation for her waterbending would be unfair either...

Jun 15th, 2014 01:35 AM

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'Nearby' is far enough for Toph to pin Katara down and crush her ankles. The advantage comes only if Katara manages to get Toph in the ocean, which I find unlikely.

Katara only needs to get herself in the ocean really, then Toph couldn't sense any vibrations. Maybe Katara could subdue Toph with some water she gets from the grass or trees or whatever?

Jun 15th, 2014 01:39 AM