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Jesse Custer vs Mxyzptlk

With the word of God can he stop Mxy?


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You mean, send him back to the 5th dimension? Probably.

Jesse: GO HOME.
Myx leaves: poof
Myx comes back: what the hell was THAT?
Jesse: GO HOME.
Myx leaves: poof
Myx comes back: Hey...cut that out!
Jesse: GO HOME.
Myx leaves: poof
Myx comes back: You son of a...
Jesse: GO HOME.
Myx leaves: poof
Myx comes back: @$&#%!!!


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No. Mxy destroys him, his "God", and their entire universe with a snap of his fingers.


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Uh huh. smile


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'God' in the Preacher-verse is a joke.

Mxy gestures Jesse /w/ Genesis away.


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Cool. smile


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Absolutely.

Raw cosmic/reality altering power rarely gives defense against Willpower/emotion based attacks.

If he removed his hearing/changed his language, that would do it, but generally speaking the highest end willpower attacks in comics have no defense at all.

And why would it? Sentience and will and sentience and will, by comic book standards. Everything with self awareness behaves and thinks exactly the same, from humans to high end abstracts.

The Primal Monitor being one possible exception, who knows if it has self awareness as we know it..

Hell, I bet Purple Man can control Mxy, let alone Jesse.


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Originally posted by Galan007
'God' in the Preacher-verse is a joke.

Mxy gestures Jesse /w/ Genesis away.


you trying to bring odg out of retirement? that's a good way to do it. thumb up


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The Mxy Twins(which ARE Mxy) displayed casual telepathy, on a creation-wide scale... And that was the same comic where DC was described as an Omniverse. Point being: Mxy's mind/will...like every other part of his character...is extremely powerful.

So no, Purple Man certainly isn't manipulating him, nor are the pathetic powers of the Preacher-verse.


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you trying to bring odg out of retirement? that's a good way to do it. thumb up
He's never coming back, lol.

It'd be nice if he still posted, though. Pissy as the guy could get, ODG was very intelligent, and almost all of his posts were well thought out, and supported by *something* of substance.


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Why did ODG leave?


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He had a complete breakdown during a debate, iirc.


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Originally posted by cdtm
Absolutely.

Raw cosmic/reality altering power rarely gives defense against Willpower/emotion based attacks.

If he removed his hearing/changed his language, that would do it, but generally speaking the highest end willpower attacks in comics have no defense at all.

And why would it? Sentience and will and sentience and will, by comic book standards. Everything with self awareness behaves and thinks exactly the same, from humans to high end abstracts.

The Primal Monitor being one possible exception, who knows if it has self awareness as we know it..

Hell, I bet Purple Man can control Mxy, let alone Jesse.


Thats Aces. thumb up


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He had a complete breakdown during a debate, iirc.


I thought that was the norm for him?

They don't make nerds like they used to.


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Originally posted by Galan007
The Mxy Twins(which ARE Mxy) displayed casual telepathy, on a creation-wide scale... And that was the same comic where DC was described as an Omniverse. Point being: Mxy's mind/will...like every other part of his character...is extremely powerful.

So no, Purple Man certainly isn't manipulating him, nor are the pathetic powers of the Preacher-verse.


Depends on how the will sapping power is portrayed.

I'll use Max Lord as an easy example. Back in the 90's, his nosebleed nudge casually controlled J'onn's actions, as easily as he could control anyone else. Same exact amount of effort.

Later on, in Infinite Crisis (Or at least in Booster Gold), it started to be shown as an advanced type of telepathy, but in the 90's it was something different. Basically skirted the tp rules, as if magic.

Now apply this to Purple Man and Xavier. Would Charles's tp defenses protect him, at all?

In short, we're comparing science, with rules, to "magic", which simply works.


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Depends on how the will sapping power is portrayed.

I'll use Max Lord as an easy example. Back in the 90's, his nosebleed nudge casually controlled J'onn's actions, as easily as he could control anyone else. Same exact amount of effort.

Later on, in Infinite Crisis (Or at least in Booster Gold), it started to be shown as an advanced type of telepathy, but in the 90's it was something different. Basically skirted the tp rules, as if magic.

Now apply this to Purple Man and Xavier. Would Charles's tp defenses protect him, at all?

In short, we're comparing science, with rules, to "magic", which simply works.

Not sure how others'll take your reasoning, but it IS on point.


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Originally posted by cdtm
Depends on how the will sapping power is portrayed.

I'll use Max Lord as an easy example. Back in the 90's, his nosebleed nudge casually controlled J'onn's actions, as easily as he could control anyone else. Same exact amount of effort.

Later on, in Infinite Crisis (Or at least in Booster Gold), it started to be shown as an advanced type of telepathy, but in the 90's it was something different. Basically skirted the tp rules, as if magic.

Now apply this to Purple Man and Xavier. Would Charles's tp defenses protect him, at all?

In short, we're comparing science, with rules, to "magic", which simply works.
Thing is, all things 'logical' go flying out the window when we're dealing with 5th-dimensional beings. I'm sure I don't need to explain why.


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Why?


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You want me to explain why 5D beings do not abide by 3D laws/rules, lol? You must be joking... Good one. thumb up


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Mxy just puts his fingers in his ears and makes Jessie into the tool he really is.


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