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Batman vs Kenshiro

Since Batman wins because "he is Batman" this is not a straight up match.

How many seconds does Kenshiro last?

Bonus Scenario:

Batman fights every named character in Fist of the North Star at once. How long do they last before Batman crushes them?

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Re: Batman vs Kenshiro

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Since Batman wins because "he is Batman" this is not a straight up match.

How many seconds does Kenshiro last?

Bonus Scenario:

Batman fights every named character in Fist of the North Star at once. How long do they last before Batman crushes them?


Bat-pieces are strewn all over the battlefield!

RIP BATMAN


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Bat-pieces are strewn all over the battlefield!

RIP BATMAN


Kenshiro gets bat kicked.

After all Batman is faster than the Flash, and stronger than Wonder Woman.

A single kick is all it takes, and Kenshiro isn't fast enough to use musou tensei in time.

After all he is not faster than light.

Not that it matters because musou tensei won't work against Batman because he's Batman.

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As confirmed by such reputable and excellent debaters such as abhilegend.

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And Leo, StiltmanFTW, Dark Saint, and a bunch of others agree. After all, they could never possibly be wrong.

Hey, he knows a bazillion martial arts of course he is faster than light and can break planets in half with his biceps!

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Batman is faster than a bloodlusted Superman's HV.


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Batman is faster than a bloodlusted Superman's HV.


Yes, and we also know that Deathstroke the Terminator is able to knee-cap Kid Flash with a shotgun and get the drop on the Flash who would literally perceive him as little more than a statue.

It's so wonderful how comic book writers don't care about what characters are actually capable of.

That they turn Batman who is supposed to be the world's greatest detective, and the peak human underdog with no explicit superpowers into some other guy who is faster than light and snaps planets in half like twigs.

What wonderful A-class writing.

He's about as much Batman as Crazy Steve from All-Star Batman is.

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Not just writers, artists too!

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As you can see, the HV is already travelling towards Bats. Supes is obviously out to harm him.

And Bats can still dodge him thumb up


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As you can see, the HV is already travelling towards Bats. Supes is obviously out to harm him.

And Bats can still dodge him thumb up


Yes, and that is totally in line with the fact Batman is not supposed to have any superpowers and is supposed to be street level. Nor has any cybernetics, chi, speed force, power cosmic, or anything along those lines. As well as the fact he is not igniting the Earth's atmosphere with how fast he is moving with conventional speed.

No contradictions there.

Just like how Squirrel Girl can defeat Thanos, and is listed as a match for the likes of the Living Tribunal. Those squirrels are so hardcore.

Speaking of that there must be dozens of street level characters who are faster than light. After all there are plenty of people who can keep up with Batman!

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Yes, and that is totally in line with the fact Batman is not supposed to have any superpowers and is supposed to be street level. Nor has any cybernetics, chi, speed force, power cosmic, or anything along those lines. As well as the fact he is not igniting the Earth's atmosphere with how fast he is moving with conventional speed.

No contradictions there.

Just like how Squirrel Girl can defeat Thanos, and is listed as a match for the likes of the Living Tribunal. Those squirrels are so hardcore.

Speaking of that there must be dozens of street level characters who are faster than light. After all there are plenty of people who can keep up with Batman!


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Hey, I just post the (canon) scans. Not my fault comic writers don't sit down with biology/physics textbooks and work out what is or isn't possible.

If it tells a story, and looks visually cool - we roll with it. The whole concept of Batman is not humanly possible, so not sure why you draw the line here.......


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Hey, I just post the (canon) scans. Not my fault comic writers don't sit down with biology/physics textbooks and work out what is or isn't possible.


It doesn't have to follow in line with physics after all it's fiction.

The problem is that fights between characters who are A) popular B) cash cows C) in the mainstream D) put on a pedestal always get their push.

It's like wrestling even if it doesn't make sense John Cena wins.

Which is applicable if we're using the context of a story, and not a match up between them separated from any plot induced stupidity or character induced stupidity.

Particulary when their showings outside of direct confrontations, and the narrative greatly contradict those fights.

Otherwise, there is no way to ever reach an objective conclusion.

I could use that same scene to say Superman's heat vision is slower than light-speed, and can't hit an established peak human. Whose feats of speed generally consist of dodging bullets.

It goes both ways.

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If it tells a story, and looks visually cool - we roll with it. The whole concept of Batman is not humanly possible, so not sure why you draw the line here.......


That's interesting considering that fights between characters are the most unreliable source to use for comic books due to how ridiculous they are, and are written by the metaphorical equivalent of six year olds arguing whose dad can beat yours.

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As you can see, the HV is already travelling towards Bats. Supes is obviously out to harm him.

And Bats can still dodge him thumb up
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Literally the best speed feat of any street leveler.


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Literally the worst feat for Superman's heat vision.

He can't even hit a peak human with it.

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In before "well, it's a laser and heat vision. Of course it's light-speed."

Which is going to come from the same guys who say physics don't matter in comic books.

That, or use other feats to prove it is light-speed despite the fact they go primarily by fights instead of feats.

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As you can clearly see Deathstroke is so much faster than light.

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As you can clearly see Deathstroke is so much faster than light.


You can't ignore fights, though.

Who is stronger, Batman or the Living Tribunal?


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Originally posted by DarkSaint85 You can't ignore fights, though.


You can when they make positively no sense, and are supported by nothing outside of any fights.

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Who is stronger, Batman or the Living Tribunal?


Depends does someone in the immediate vicinity by the name of James Gordon say "because he's Batman" as one particular writer uses him as his mouthpiece?

If so 10/10 in Batman's favor. As you already know.

After all, as you said the very concept of Batman doesn't make sense. Therefore he has no limitations. Instead of going by what he has accomplished outside of his fights.

Now that would be silly.

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Literally the worst feat for Superman's heat vision.

He can't even hit a peak human with it.
Nah, it's a good feat for Superman that Batman even had to put effort to dodge the HV.


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