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KOTOR Darth Bandon Vs ROTS Obi Wan Kenobi
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KOTOR Darth Bandon Vs ROTS Obi Wan Kenobi

Alright. Who takes it?.

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Obi wan stomps, lol


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Obi wan stomps, lol


It would be nice if you could back that up?.

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Obi wan's accolades and accomplishments are INFINITELY better than Bandon's, wtf has bandon done?


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Obi wan's accolades and accomplishments are INFINITELY better than Bandon's, wtf has bandon done?


Kenobi is damn good with a blade for his era, no doubt. One of the best duelists in the Prequel era.

However he has only been able to hold Assaj Ventress/Darth Maul to stalemates. His best feat is beating Grievous/Anakin, Kenobi knew Skywalkers moves but its still a impressive feat.

However Kenobi has demonstrated ZERO IMPRESSIVE force abilites. He failed to even lift a X-WING in the ROTS video game and has been thrown around by Dooku/Maul.

Bandon has several stataments backing him up.

Statement from the SW Databank: There he embraced the dark side and the way of the Sith with every fiber of his being. His great strength in the Force, his natural cruelty and his absolute ruthlessness in his quest for power soon set him apart from his fellow students, and drew the calculating eye of Lord Malak himself.

Statement from the SW Databank: Some in the Sith hierarchy wondered if Bandon would someday rise to challenge Malak for the mantle of Dark Lord, for that was the way of the Sith: the strong must rule, and when the apprentice surpasses the Master, the Master must fall.

SOME BELIEVED he may someday challenge MALAK himself who we all know would SLAUGHTER Kenobi with total ease.

And MANY Jedi have fallen at Bandons blade. He is a Jedi killer.

Statement from the SW Databank: Darth Bandon proved himself to be an excellent choice. Many Jedi fell beneath the blade of his lightsaber.

Also from the wiki

Because of his strength in the Force,[18] Bandon was capable of using many Force powers. He could use the Force to push his opponents to the ground and could use it to alter the air currents around his opponent, turning it into a maelstrom. This swirling vortex of Force energy would lift an opponent into the air, spin them around, and completely immobilize them. Bandon was also able to use the Force to render himself virtually invulnerable to most offensive Force powers for a limited time, demonstrating this against Revan.[2] Bandon's strength with the dark side of the Force enabled him to use dark-sided powers such as Force lightning, and he also used the dark side to tap into his rage and direct it against his opponents.[1] He could use the Force to instill fear in his opponents, driving them temporarily insane. Bandon was capable of using the dark side to drain his enemies' life-forces, and to strangle his opponents. He could also use it to debilitate his victims, having it work as a fast-acting toxin.[2]

He can minpulate air currents, has a powerful force push, powerful force lightning, and he can use the force to make his opponents TEMPORALY INSANE.

So I think Bandon would take it, thinking about it. It would be a amazing fight though. Bandon would be outmatched in saber combat, but is FAR above Kenobi with the force. Nice fight with tons of force pushes flying around and shit but in general Bandon would blast away Kenobis saber then just electrcute him to death-After a lengthy fight.

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hmm, at least now I know you are capable of generating an argument without making a complete fool of yourself, but your only downfall is lack of knowledge.

Kenobi is the greatest Soresu practitioner in the mythos, putting him leagues ahead of Bandon AND malak in saber combat. As for the force, Kenobi stalemated the raw power of the chosen one in a push-of-war, also, note that bandon's ingame abilities aren't canonical, he has never canonically displayed the use of insanity, lightning, or force whirlwind. Wiki isn't a credible source, I learned that a time ago


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^Provide a quote stating that kenobi is the best defensive fighter in the mythos.

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wtf has bandon done?
Uh, f*cking everything. He pushed a Sith soldier in to a console. When has Obi-Wan ever done that?


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Kenobi is damn good with a blade for his era, no doubt. One of the best duelists in the Prequel era.


George Lucas and Nick Gillard have stated that the Jedi Order we see in the PT are better duelists than any other time in their history. This is even more obvious when you read Stover’s RotS novelization.

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However Kenobi has demonstrated ZERO IMPRESSIVE force abilites.


Not true. Firstly, his attunement to the Force is such that he becomes its “vessel” in his fight against Grievous and deflects all of his strikes up towards twenty per second (RotS novelization). Secondly, he’s stalemated the Chosen One in a Force push contest, the same Anakin that could demolish buildings with a scream, and whom Mace Windu put on the same tier as Yoda in terms of raw power.

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He failed to even lift a X-WING in the ROTS video game


N-canon.

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and has been thrown around by Dooku/Maul.


Both are prodigiously powerful Force users, and have been described as among the most powerful of all time. Bandon doesn’t have any comparable accolades.

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Statement from the SW Databank: There he embraced the dark side and the way of the Sith with every fiber of his being. His great strength in the Force, his natural cruelty and his absolute ruthlessness in his quest for power soon set him apart from his fellow students, and drew the calculating eye of Lord Malak himself.


OK, so he’s notably powerful. Good for him. Obi Wan is one of the greatest Jedi in the Order’s 25,000 year history, and near the top of his time period. Mace Windu calls him the master of soresu.

That Darth Bandon was impressive enough for Malak to notice him…yeah, that doesn’t compare.

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Statement from the SW Databank: Some in the Sith hierarchy wondered if Bandon would someday rise to challenge Malak for the mantle of Dark Lord, for that was the way of the Sith: the strong must rule, and when the apprentice surpasses the Master, the Master must fall.


Mentions potential, not realized power.

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SOME BELIEVED he may someday challenge MALAK himself who we all know would SLAUGHTER Kenobi with total ease.


What are Malak’s feats? Oh, wait…

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And MANY Jedi have fallen at Bandons blade. He is a Jedi killer.


So was Grievous. Indeed, Grievous once took on five Jedi simultaneously. Obi Wan disarmed half his blades in twenty five seconds, and otherwise made a total fool of him.

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Because of his strength in the Force,[18] Bandon was capable of using many Force powers. He could use the Force to push his opponents to the ground


laughing So he can use telekinesis? Good for him?

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and could use it to alter the air currents around his opponent, turning it into a maelstrom. This swirling vortex of Force energy would lift an opponent into the air, spin them around, and completely immobilize them. Bandon was also able to use the Force to render himself virtually invulnerable to most offensive Force powers for a limited time, demonstrating this against Revan.[2] Bandon's strength with the dark side of the Force enabled him to use dark-sided powers such as Force lightning, and he also used the dark side to tap into his rage and direct it against his opponents.[1] He could use the Force to instill fear in his opponents, driving them temporarily insane. Bandon was capable of using the dark side to drain his enemies' life-forces, and to strangle his opponents. He could also use it to debilitate his victims, having it work as a fast-acting toxin.[2]

He can minpulate air currents, has a powerful force push, powerful force lightning, and he can use the force to make his opponents TEMPORALY INSANE.

So I think Bandon would take it, thinking about it. It would be a amazing fight though. Bandon would be outmatched in saber combat, but is FAR above Kenobi with the force. Nice fight with tons of force pushes flying around and shit but in general Bandon would blast away Kenobis saber then just electrcute him to death-After a lengthy fight.


None of this puts him on Obi Wan’s level, lol.

You're comparing an exceptionally powerful but otherwise insignificant Sith Lord (Bandon) to one of the most powerful and legendary Jedi Masters of all time (Obi Wan). They're not in the same league.

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George Lucas and Nick Gillard have stated that the Jedi Order we see in the PT are better duelists than any other time in their history. This is even more obvious when you read Stover’s RotS novelization.



Not true. Firstly, his attunement to the Force is such that he becomes its “vessel” in his fight against Grievous and deflects all of his strikes up towards twenty per second (RotS novelization). Secondly, he’s stalemated the Chosen One in a Force push contest, the same Anakin that could demolish buildings with a scream, and whom Mace Windu put on the same tier as Yoda in terms of raw power.



N-canon.



Both are prodigiously powerful Force users, and have been described as among the most powerful of all time. Bandon doesn’t have any comparable accolades.



OK, so he’s notably powerful. Good for him. Obi Wan is one of the greatest Jedi in the Order’s 25,000 year history, and near the top of his time period. Mace Windu calls him the master of soresu.

That Darth Bandon was impressive enough for Malak to notice him…yeah, that doesn’t compare.



Mentions potential, not realized power.



What are Malak’s feats? Oh, wait…



So was Grievous. Indeed, Grievous once took on five Jedi simultaneously. Obi Wan disarmed half his blades in twenty five seconds, and otherwise made a total fool of him.



laughing So he can use telekinesis? Good for him?



None of this puts him on Obi Wan’s level, lol.

You're comparing an exceptionally powerful but otherwise insignificant Sith Lord (Bandon) to one of the most powerful and legendary Jedi Masters of all time (Obi Wan). They're not in the same league.


obi Wan was the best amongest the PT because the PT was a era of weaklings.

kenobi has no force feats, he has good saber feats.

bandon has killed TONS of jedi (in a FAR MORE POWERFUL TIME!) and outranks kenobi in every area but kenobi has a slight speed edge.

malak choked 2jedi at once WITH EASE. kenobi stalemated with maul who could barley beat qui gon.

use logic.

I think you have a problem with fanboyism of the PT era. Once you really get into the EU you will realize that the Sith of old, the matukai, zeison sha, ratakian infinitive empire, legion of letto, dark council, kotor era characters are far above the prequel trilogy and original triology in power.

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You're adorable.


But you're also right. There's no one in the entire Star Wars mythos that Bandon is inferior to.


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Coleman Trebor begs to differ. Has Darth Bandon died unceremoniously at the hands of Jango Fett? No? I thought not.

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You're adorable.


Not as much as me.

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Indeed. More than you, really.

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Not as much as me.
Nah you're cute. This guys is just pwecious.


But seriously, Bandon pwns. There's a reason Vitiate was in hiding for so long.


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Nah you're cute. This guys is just pwecious.


But seriously, Bandon pwns. There's a reason Vitiate was in hiding for so long.


thumb up

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Oh god there's another Legend out there.

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Bandon may edge out with his Force abilities.

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Lolno.


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No.

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