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The Trans Tier Tournament !

Welcome everyone !!

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Single post tourney, victory by KO or death, no BFR, though teleportation across the battlefield is okay.

Battleground:



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Judges are being contacted, but for now enjoy the mayhem !!


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ID - Represnting Dr. Fate
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"Id" wrote on Sep 11th, 2018 11:52 AM:
Google Doc
https://docs.google.com/document/d/...dit?usp=sharing

Dr. Fate (Inza + Kent + Nabu)
Just a quick debrief: Not only do I benefit from Pre-Cris/Silver Age feats... I picked this specific incarnation since it is the most POWERFUL incarnation of Dr. Fate, given that Dr. Fate was always intended to be the fusion of Man + Woman + God. So yeah I'm going with the complete package. Bite me fanboys.

The following are key notes Dr. Fate benefits from this incarnation:

  • Heighten Cosmic Awareness - Scale Multiverse "You Shall know the Multiverse Inza Nelzon! As her mind is stretched beyond its limits for no mortal can truly grasp the unknowable."
  • The ability conjure all types of magic: " AND BY ALL THE LORDS OF LIGHT AND DARK..BY ALL FORCES I YET COMMAND.."
  • Raw Power Increase: (Its battle power had increase to the point he could contest the combined might Lord of Order Ynar and Lord of Chaos Vandaemon)

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Existing Powers that carry over to Dr. Fate:

  • Auto Shields
  • Highly Immune to Telepathy
  • High Level of TK
  • High Level of Telepathy
  • Pre-Crisis/Silver Age Superman Class Physical Prowess
  • Matter & Energy Manipulation
  • Alter Reality
  • Power Drain



Special Highlight

  • Cosmic awareness
    Mentioned earlier but needs reiterated due to importance. Regardless of how the match starts or if my opponents attempt to shield their presence it is futile for a charter built with the power to see the Fate or the future (literally) on top of having the ability perceive lay bare all of existence at once.
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  • Spell Casting
    Dr Fate can cast spell without incantations. Incantations are optional, I simply think of it, and the spell will be casted. Kent Nelson I mastered the ability to cast THOUSANDS of spells at ONCE!
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  • Speed

    The helmet lends its power to Dr. Fate. And the speed of this helmet is on the velocity of a God, literally overcoming black-holes, reaching one end of the universe to the other, casually passing through dimensions and odd-space. I seriously, SERIOUSLY question if anyone in this tournament can blitz Fate knowing how fast the helm operates.
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  • Dr. Fate Rogue Gallery
    Considering the bulk of Dr. Fates Rogue Gallery consists of Lords of Order & Chaos. Its suffice to say that many of his spell are adequately powered to handle many on the trans tier opponents listed today, since the Lords of Order/Chaos are ranked Skyfather or higher.


Game Plan
At the opening bell several spells will be casted at the same time.

  • Cast a shield on myself "Skin of Sorugar". No weapons made from science or divine can pierce it. Even the "I can cut anything down" blade of Zauriel is unable to piece it.
    https://imgur.com/a/sOVFR3W
  • Binding spell on my opponents. They were successful in binding the Lords of Order and Chaos.
    https://imgur.com/a/LThFKAk

  • Energy/Power Drain on my opponents fueled by my opponents own power. It was successful on a Lord of Chaos.
    https://imgur.com/a/VaFNydo

  • Offensive Magical Blast. It was powerful enough to crush a Lord of Chaos Totec.
    https://imgur.com/a/XxgpYzw



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Lord of Brooklyn - Superboy Prime


SUPERBOY PRIME: MASTER OF DEATH!!!!

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This tournament was OVER before it began once Superboy Prime, THE MASTER OF DEATH entered the arena.

There is no need for COMPLEXITIES, SUBTERFUGE, or GUILE when you have LIMITLESS POWER as Superboy Prime does.

THE PLAN- DEATH BY SOLAR INCINERATION!!!!

How does Superboy Prime BARBECUE the WANTON TRASH that seek to oppose him?

HE SHIFTS THE ENTIRE PLANET ON WHICH THE BATTLE TAKES PLACE INTO THE SUN AT SUPERLUMINAL SPEED!!!!
http://imgur.com/a/dKz4j#0

Now, some of you may say this is an anomaly or an aberration that can be dismissed.

To remove ALL DOUBT here is Superboy Prime SHIFTING THE CENTER OF THE UNIVERSE AT SUPERLUMINAL SPEED!!!
http://imgur.com/a/tpj64#0

The GUARDIANS were not even aware of Superboy Prime’s movements and this is the scope of their abilities!!!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guard...s_and_abilities

IF THE GUARDIANS OF THE UNIVERSE WERE UNAWARE OF PRIME SHIFTING THE CENTER OF THE UNIVERSE, THEN SURELY THE VERMIN THAT OPPOSE PRIME WILL BE CAUGHT BY SURPRISE AS WELL!!

WITH THAT THE TOURNAMENT IS OVER AND SUPERBOY PRIME: MASTER OF MURDER IS YOUR VICTOR!!!

Of course, there will be some HERETICS who will deny THE SELF-EVIDENT TRUTH of Superboy Prime’s INVINCIBILITY.
I will dispatch their PATHETIC DENIALS with ease!

REACTION TIME- The Other competitors will contend that they are fast enough to react to THE MASTER OF MURDER’S actions!

LIES!!!!

Here is Superboy Prime FIGHTING THREE SPEED FORCE USERS with ease!!!
Including THE GOD of The Speed Force Wally West!!!

http://i.imgur.com/D5UpwcJ.png

NONE OF THE OPPONENTS HERE EVEN APPROACH THE SPEED OF THE FLASH’S MUCH THE LESS THE COMBINED TRIO!!!

ADVANTAGE: SUPERBOY PRIME

CRISPY CRETINS- The following Combatants would be ASH before entering the sun.

JENNY QUANTUM- Normal durability- Quantum is dead in picoseconds
THE DOCTOR- Normal durability- The Doctor is dead in picoseconds
FERNUS- Weakness exploitation- Rib Tips in a second
WORLDBREAKER HULK- Durability Overwhelmed-Gamma Giblets in a second
OBSIDIAN- Powers exceeded
AMAZO- Adaptation Exceeded

That leaves POTENTIALLY Dr. Fate, Monarch, and Larfleeze.

Dr. Fate- A master Mage.
HERE IS WHAT SUPERBOY PRIME THINKS OF MAGIC IN ALL ITS FORMS!!!

This is MORDRU WITH ALL OF THE MAGIC PRESENT IN THE 30TH CENTURY AS A LORD OF CHAOS.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mordr...s_and_abilities

HERE IS WHAT HIS ATTACK DOES TO SUPERBOY PRIME!!!
http://i.imgur.com/jkN48Iw.png

NOT A DAMN THING!!!

CONCLUSION- DR. FATE DIES BRUTALLY!!!!

Larfleeze- A Lantern wielder of IMMENSE power.

HERE IS WHAT PRIME DOES TO LANTERN WIELDERS OF ALL STRIPES!!!
http://i.imgur.com/wPOaN8A.png
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THE ULTIMATE DEFYING OF LANTERN POWER!!!

BEHOLD!!!

http://i.imgur.com/jFeQsxH.jpg

THE ENTIRE GREEN LANTERN CORPS ITSELF PLUS THE POWER OF A GUARDIAN COULD NOT STOP SUPERBOY PRIME!!!

CONCLUSION- LARFLEEZE DIES BRUTALLY!!!

MONARCH

SUPERBOY PRIME’S JOURNEY TO THE SUN PROVIDES A SUNDIP WHICH EASILY PUSHES HIM BEYOND MONARCH’S REACH!!!

CONCLUSION-MONARCH DIES BRUTALLY

COUNTER ARGUMENTS

UNHOLY ALLIANCE- ALL OF THE COMBATANTS TEAM UP AGAINST SUPERBOY PRIME.

RESULT- DEATH. DEATH. AND MORE DEATH

HERE IS WHAT PRIME DOES TO SCORES OF THE MOST POWERFUL BEINGS IN THE MULTIVERSE

http://imgur.com/a/GE3Hq#0
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These groups FAR exceed the power of all the combatants present.

ADVANTAGE PRIME

WEAKNESS EXPLOITATION- PRIME DEPRIVED OF SUNLIGHT AND AT HIS WEAKEST CAN DO THE FOLLOWING.
http://imgur.com/a/geGGy#0
http://imgur.com/a/9YrML#2
http://imgur.com/a/sPiXb#0

NO WEAKNESS EXPLOITATION CAN SAVE THE ENEMIES FROM DEATH!!

ADVANTAGE PRIME

BATTLEFIELD REMOVAL- THERE IS NOWHERE SUPERBOY PRIME CAN BE SENT WHERE HE CAN’T RETURN IN SECONDS.
http://imgur.com/a/cQBha#0
http://imgur.com/a/3dmaq#0

THERE IS NO ESCAPE!!!

ADVANTAGE PRIME

PHYSICALLY OVERWHELM HIM

HAHAHAHAHAHA
http://imgur.com/a/nlI10#0
http://i.imgur.com/gHhQQDv.jpg
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ADVANTAGE PRIME

CONCLUSION- SUPERBOY PRIME PUSHES THE BATTLEPLANET INTO THE SUN KILLING THE COMBATANTS INSTANTLY. THE UNLIKELY SURVIVORS ARE KILLED BRUTALLY.

THE WINNER: SUPEBOY PRIME

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Old Post Sep 19th, 2018 04:09 PM
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Carver9 - Amazo

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Amazo possessed by the Carver9... lets get this thing on the role...



Alright, so my process is simple and easy but just know, I will provide evidence for everything that I say. I am endowed with the powers of...

Flash, Superman, Aquaman, Martian Manhunter, Batman, Wonder Woman, Green Lantern and I am an expert at using those abilities. Let me prove it...

Here Amazo uses Batman, Flash and Superman powers and abilities all at the same time...

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Here he uses Flash speed and Captain Atom powers at the same time...

https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/39...023_08.jpg.html

I'm guessing this is enough to prove he can multitask but more will be added throughout my post. Lets get to the debating. My goal is simple, mimic, attack, hide and once done, clean up.

The battle starts and I am blessed with the powers of the big 7, I have pure speed on my side... I am the fastest. This is proof... I beat Flash at his own game. I destroy him and outspeed him in pure combat...

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We all know how fast Flash is and I have Wonder Woman and Superman speed stacked on top of it and as shown above in my fight against Flash, I was using multiple of abilities at the same time. The match begins and I begin running using the Supermen senses to find everyone and copying; everyone is frozen to me while I a doing this - Prime is the only one probably moving... PROBABLY and I copy him as well. The thing about this is, I am much faster than Prime. Remember, I blitzed the hell out of Flash and Flash did this to Prime...

http://i.imgur.com/2ZnT3iC.png

Prime had to retreat from a serious Flash. I'm a serious Flash but I dont engage him, not yet anyways. I take his powers. I'm fast enough to run around every part of this planet before anyone even registers to take an action. Prime abilities is added, WBH is added, Fernus is added, Kal Kent is added, Monarch, etc...

I've added everyones abilities on top of what I already have and I still have time to spare because I move in attoseconds just like the Flash and I am an expert with my abilities like Flash as shown in my scans where I used Batman Martial freaking arts, Flash Speed and Superman powers at the same time. I go on the move to attack and guess who I target first? My sexy thang Leo. I'm stacked with the powers of EVERYONE on the field plus the big 7. I punch at Leo with ALL of the strengthSSSS that I have (WBH, Prime is suffient but I use EVERYTHING). Hit him with a 1000 super strength punches before anyone could blink, I use the warping of The Doctor, the power output of Larfleeze and yes, I can do this because as shown above, me and FLash fought each other while the world was at a halt. A second didn't even pass and I was hitting Flash with multiple of abilities and techniques.

I crack his armor (yes, I CRACKED IT, I have the power to do it, even after all of Monarch beastly showings), grab him, fly to the Doctor, punch him/The Doctor hard enough to daze him and let Monarch explode. Before the explosion, I use Martian Manhunter phasing abilities and phase into the ground. Remember, Damborgson said the battle field is indestructible, it can not be harmed, no matter what, so I'm safe. I am also endowed with Monarch power, I can not be hurt by what I am made of.

I phase into the indestructible ground, and I start mind attacking with Martian Manhunter powers while the blast goes off, making people lose focus so that they cant stop my attack (Fernus would probably be resistant to my mind blast but he can not stop the explosion); the explosion goes off and it kills almost everyone nigh instantly; key word, ALMOST. How devistating is Monarch blast?
Here https://static.comicvine.com/upload...rch_proof_2.jpg

It destroys an entire Universe. There isn't a single person that will withstand this attack and The Doctor is dazed/almost knocked the hell out due to me caving his head in so he will not have enough time to warp anything. No one here have a single showing of withstanding an attack of this caliber and the only one that it is disputable against is Prime but he wasn't in the greatest of conditions and he can not outrun the attack since his limitation of escaping without losing would be considered self bfr. Well, here was Prime condition AFTER Monarch attack...

http://i.imgur.com/qc1kM7k.png

He was knocked out. If by some miracle Prime wasn't bfred after this attack and he is still on the battle field, knocked out. I dont know if this is a 10 count or if I have to go for the kill but with all of the strength that I have along with all of the other abilities, including Monarch who was blasting him so hard it was sapping the extra power he had in him, I continuously beat on him until he is gone.

Before I forget, I would also like to present evidence of Martian Manhunters telepathic abilities just in case people are lost on what he can do...

First lets prove his phasing. Here Jonn phase through a Force Field that withstood hits from GL and Superman...

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Enters the Spectres mind and forces him to the Astral plane while pulling the rest of the league with him.

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Everyone knows about MM, so I'm not going too far into detail with this. I had a good time typing this up and sorry for being late. Wish I could've added a more post but this should be enough. I cant wait to see what other write, so many talented people. As long as I destroy LOB, that is all that matters.


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beatboks - Obsidian


Goodnight gracie

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At the onset of the battle Todd will go full shadow form. A state in which he is intangible yet still able to touch and handle

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Even those who are able to become intangible or shadow beings themselves can't touch Todd unless he wants them to.

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Todd can also be ANY and everwhere that there is darkness

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Fighting multiple adversaries all over wont be a problem

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In the above story in JLA he fought in several places at once defending team mates across the city and elsewhere while fighting himself

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Todd will cover all his opponents with his shadow. Using it he will delve into their souls possessing those he can (like Dr Fate who he has already possessed)
https://static.comicvine.com/upload...ossessing+4.png

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And those who are darker in nature on the field like Amazo, SBP, Fernus, and Lafreeze he will simply show them their darker side to make them in effectual.

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Part 2

We see that Dr Fate is already under my control. he's succumbed to Obsidian's shadow control before and he will again.

We also see that Time manipulation didn't protect Hourman 1 million from Todd's control. As such the Doctor will also dall under my sway.

The darkness in the souls of SBP, Fernus and Lafreeze will make them easy to control also. Carver may try to tell you that Amazo is safe because he's an artificial intelligence with no soul to manipulate but then SO IS Hourman 1 million and we've seen him a pawn of the master of darkness

My adversaries will probably pull out some old out dated scans showing that strong light will put Todd down. Don buy it judges

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there are plenty of times he's absorbed light in high intensity without an issue. This was only a problem when he was a rookie.

Not to mention even being struck by Shazam's lightning he reforms in moments

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You can't destroy darkness. Humanity is full of it. Todd can use it to torment even the just and noble if they have dark things in theiir past or fears.

http://i.imgur.com/NnceF62.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/X5NTIJV.jpg
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everyone on the battlefield has something to exploid. Some pain or longing or fear that wells within them that Obsidian can turn against them and twist like a knife to be their undoing.

He can easily take down everyone on the field without ever putting himself at risk

And before we get the inevitable "speed blitz argument thrown up to take him down

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Finally just in case I get some NLF argument thrown up. Someone trying to say yeah he did that but not to this scale. Well he was the power source that depowered every hero on the planet in one time line

http://i.imgur.com/eAcxHtV.jpg
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AND the black hole that caused another time line
http://i.imgur.com/sgwRJDM.jpg

I'd say the limits are few.


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WorldBreaker Saint
Let’s get one thing out of the way. WBS has a wish.
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How powerful was this wish? It could heal and revert BOTH Rick and Jen back to their normal selves. But how powerful were Jen/Rick?
https://i.postimg.cc/Zn3zdPkZ/RCO015_1469401173.jpg

They not only had their own power, but they were absorbing and augmenting all those nukes.

Foom himself had absorbed ‘bajillions’ of MEGATONS (Mt) of nuclear energy:
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For comparison, ALL of the explosives used in WW2 (incl. Hiroshima and Nagasaki) was 3Mt. Let’s be conservative, and say it was about 100 times that (being incredibly conservative here. 7th smartest person in the MU, able to calculate complex maths on the fly, and he still could only come up with bajillions). And not only were they absorbing it, they were AMPING it up. By the time they were depowered, they were the same size as Hulk:
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And Hulk was...well:
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Look at his foot. Notice that little lizard? This is how he compared to Tyrannus, a normal sized dude (well, maybe slightly taller):
https://i.postimg.cc/qgfZVW5H/RCO006_1469445003.jpg

Foom himself is quite the Worldbreaker:
https://i.postimg.cc/XNZjWFzs/1rcx_PPK.jpg

So, in summary. Foom was incredibly powerful BEFORE being amped. He was then in turn amping Jen and Rick to extremely high levels, to the point they were all equals (note how Jen is able to draw blood from Hulk in my first scan).

And Hulk’s 0.21 Hercs was enough to depower them. Even gigantic WBH was depowered down to normal levels.

Now, note in my scan that WBH did NOT need the wishing machine. All he did was clench his fist, and let's be honest here - the machine was still fine and dandy despite being so close to WBH. Had he touched it, the gamma energy would have destroyed it. Yet, it is perfectly fine here:
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Nor did he need the Wishing Well (which Damborg has said I do not have). The mystic energy, as noted by Sofia, was IN him. It is a part of me. Damborg gave me giant WBH, so that is what I am.

Oh sure. I have some pretty hardcore opponents in here. Fernus, S1M, Obsidian, Larf, SBP, Amazo….so my wish wouldn’t depower ALL of them.

So, match starts, I wish, and some of my opponents fall. Carver would fall, obviously. He has no shields, nobody knows where anyone is, as per the rules. LoB is immune. Fernus is depowered. Fate is depowered. Smurph? Depowered. S1M is depowered (remember, magic still works on him). Beatboks, Jenny and Larf - depowered. The exact wording, we can argue about later - maybe I wish for my victory, or maybe I wish that all my opponents are replaced by their real world KMC posters….the main point is, I have a wish, that I can make, and can depower trans level characters.

That leaves SBP (magic immunity). Remember, judges - when the match starts, we all start on the ground, opposite sides of the planet, no shields, or spells, no way of locating each other.

Now on to my defense.

I am 100% sure my opponents will attempt speed blitzes or what not (Carver, hello!). Don’t forget who this is.
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And the effects linger even when I am gone:
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No thunderclaps, no footquakes. This is an unamped Hulk, with no nukes, not fully cutting loose, shooting an omnidirectional bubble of energy all around me. His Gammaburst. Remember, even in Vegas, he was holding back:
https://i.postimg.cc/66D9pqst/RCO009_1469445003.jpg

I, of course, am not holding back. So the very instant the match starts, I have a defensive omnidirectional field of gamma energy bursting out all around me, which I do not need to be conscious to control. Any attempts to speedblitz me - would just have you running full smack into my gamma energy. It’s not just a forcefield, it’s worse - it’s a forcefield that would eat you alive.

All I need, in turn, is that split second to make my wish. Which works regardless of location:
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Note how BiBeast and Arm’Cheddon were teleported there across the galaxy, from their homeworlds. Did Cho know their location? Nah. Did he have to fire up a targeting spell to determine where they were? Nope. He merely wished it, and it occurred. Same here. I wish for my opponents to be depowered, and regardless of where they are on the battlefield, they will lose their powers. I don’t need to verbalise it either (so forget anti-Zatanna style speed blitzes - it occurs with a thought).

Against SBP, my only threat? Sure, I can bring up his low showings against the Titans. Superboy on his lonesome. Krypto. How he gets bloodied by people less than WBH. We the contestants and we the judges have all seen the arguments and the scans. But that is not my way.

Instead, I will go the opposite direction. He’s not killing me, that’s for sure - I have a spell on me which ensures I can never be killed:
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HV? Lol. Remember, I am literally sweating gamma bombs. Even when in the Dark Dimension, when Hulk wasn’t amped, Foom’s breath did jack all:
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In Vegas, when Hulk was even weaker (i.e. still holding back) Arm’Cheddon wasn’t doing bupkis with his own energy:
https://i.postimg.cc/9Q15ZFk4/RCO017_1469445115_1.jpg

Freezebreath? Lol.

Whereas I have the durability to do the above, a HF that will always heal me, AND a spell that ensures I am constantly reforming. And the strength….well, am sure we have all seen the feats. Nearly breaking the continent, worldbreaker, blah blah blah. As Strange says:
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But just in case you need, for some reason, a refresher:

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Now keep the above image in mind, and remember this: I am now amped BEYOND what you see in the above image.

I just like this feat, by-the-by. Umar has created a barrier strong enough to hold countless hordes of Mindless Ones at bay:
https://i.postimg.cc/Wz68Jt4t/RCO013_1469445062.jpg

Hulk (weakened, mind you) with a t-clap (so indirectly) flung Foom (a worldbreaker himself) at the barrier so hard, it broke:
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I just liked that image.

So, in summary:

Summary
Match starts, we are all on the battlefield. With a thought, I depower everyone, regardless of their location. My gammaburst ensures no one is getting close to me whilst I do this (if there is even a slight chance they even could before the wish occurs). The only one who has a chance of being immune, SBP, will have to go h2h with me. I am as strong (if not stronger; I did indirectly, when weaker, what SBP did with a direct punch, when amped), can constantly reform, and am unable to be killed, with an energy attack that does not need my reflexes or aim (unlike HV). Can SBP say the same?

And all this, without even using the 'Hulk is Hulk' defence. Imagine all of the Hulk's strength/speed/durability feats - now remember that he was holding back in all of them. Not here.


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ID: Short and sweet with a tremendous amount of power. I knew from the get go some of these choices were suspect for trans lol.
The Good: I find it quite believable that you have the power to bind everyone and anyone on the field, and I also find it plausible that no one can hide from you either. The energy drain for the most part should work, with the suspect in question being Prime who seems to hax in the magic department to be drained by it. So the fight starts and the opponents are swamped by instantaneous incantations of absurdly high level.
The bad: Nothing really, the only part that is a little suspect is speed, which while the helmet proves it can go absolutely insanely fast, doesn’t speak all that much for reaction time in my opinion.
LoB:
The Good: I fully believe Prime can push that planet into the sun, and it will undoubtedly take the competition by surprise. I also don’t think he can be particularly affected by even the highest of high magic like Dr. Fate has or by much of anything easily, good demonstration of the difficulty anyone would have draining you as well. Beyond that, the closer you get to a star like that, the stronger you will become. Solid post, very menacing and powerful.
The bad: You did indeed just turn everyone on the fields attention to you, and while it is only 4 opponents, you now have Amazo, Fate, Obsidian and Hulk all trying to stop you simply because of the danger your tactic poses. The planet is also sufficiently durable that even the sun is suspect to damage it, and some of the opponents would be difficult to put down by only throwing them into a star.
Carver:

The good: Solid plan, if you can find them I believe you will indeed be able to copy your opponents, and once you do that, you’re going to truly be a difficult opponent to deal with. You’ll also be realistically first on the scene to stop Prime, an opponent who is not trying to hide at all but posing the most imminent danger, maybe even messing with him mentally due to flash phobia, interrupting possibly and getting a lending hand from the other opponents. Also good showings of how you can multitask, there is little doubt you’ll be effectively using your abilities many at a time.
The bad: Sadly, the lack of Monarch on the field hurt your posts erm not your fault, we just had a lot of dropouts. Other than that though, you don’t have a lot of weaknesses. Your draft does seem like the most vulnerable to say Dr. Fate’s manipulations however, besides Hulk.
Beatboks:
The good: I was not familiar with Obsidian, but you’ve got a hell of a draft there. Being able to control fate is no easy feat, that is insane, and the hourman 1mil showing puts Amazo under suspected manipulation as well. Because of the nature of LoB’s attack, you will also very likely not be under direct fire from the get go, giving you time to mess with people’s minds and souls, possible taking them under your control, and while it’s not assured you can take over prime, Hulk or Amazo probably are going under your control, and will be powerful tools.
The bad: Not much to worry about here, but even despite having been able to take control of fate in the past, his shielding this time around will at least make you work for it, in which case, you’ll be tied up from other possible threats, since taking over prime or the others is no sure deal.
DS:
The good: Excellent use of wish magic thumb up also because of the state you start in, you’re a truly terrible force to have on the field. The planet will probably hold up but you’ll be devastating the land around you, and if someone were to accidentally get too close, say amazo or prime, they may find taking more damage than they’re ever accustomed to, at this point even Prime better watch taking a shot to the chin if he wants to remain conscious, or with a head. People would take damage just from being in your presence and now they have the magic angle to have to deal with.
The bad: You’re still vulnerable to certain attacks, particularly those of Obsidian now that you’ve let everything go and darkness has without a doubt invaded your soul. At the very least it will conflict you enough to be assaulted by others like Fate. Your wish is powerful but most likely to work only on Amazo in my opinion.

Verdict: This is an absolute mess and I’m not sure who to pick…everyone has at least a shot and you all interfere with each other so badly its hard to say who could really take it. But I think…I’m going with Obsidian/Beatboks
This was so hard. And I think the only reason I’m giving it to Obsidian and not Dr. Fate is because while Dr. Fate attempts to restrain his opponents which may prove effectual for most but will without a doubt get the attention of Prime who will then go full maniac on him while being virtually immune to magic, they all become vulnerable to being trapped inside their own minds by Obsidian or having the darkness in them drawn out. So Hulk is taken over, possibly Amazo as well, Prime is messed with while he confronts Fate, and Obsidian weaves his way in for a very narrow and clever victory.
When I say Obsidian wins, I mean like 5.5/10 by the way, everyone should be proud, you all did very well considering you were planning for a much bigger group. Thanks for the awesome reads thumb up My apologies in advance.


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celeyhyga17 wrote
As usual this sort of bz becomes a clusterphuck when you get down to business. Basically it's a bunch of characters using their trump card on each other in order to gain the advantage or to outright beat one another. But before they can use these trump cards, I look for how they can apply such moves. It's obviously very difficult to convey to the readers what their characters can do in such an abbreviated setting.


ID gave the most basic and straightforward form of attack and defense. I guess he really didn't need to utilize a "shnazzy" move since I'm sure Fate by nature has a plethora of trump card moves he can use. So I kind of liked the idea of showing the power behind his very deliberate and candid approach.

LoB had some panache to his approach as well. Flying the battlefield to the sun?? I can accept that move since technically he never used bfr because the battlefield was always around..(?)

Carvster's links aren't working. So with that, I pretty much ignored what he was trying to sell. Too bad, because I liked his draft.

Boks was fairly creative with his move. I also commend his attempt at showing what his guy can do and why it will work.

Dtaint had a lot of panache. He always seems to panache his way into and out of things. Sometimes it's a little too "flameboyant" for my tastes, but in this case I do like me some panache..

So now the verdict.. Very hard because so many things happening at once.

Dtaint's trump card I believe would have phukked everyone except I think for two peeps. That would be SBP for obvious reasons and probably Inza Fate. First I think he needed the machine to parse his wishes. The scan was pretty clear. In some way or other it would have somehow backfired since it was a flaw of the wishes. As to how? Beats me, but it probably would have hindered WBH somehow. Because of that, I think he's out. I think Obsidian is out too because of the wish. As for Hulk reforming, I think that only worked in Umar's dimension. Otherwise, he would not have been killed by an arrow...

K now Fate and SBP... We've all seen what happened when Mordru blasted him. Not much... But binding him, I doubt he's "immune" to that. Could he break them? Maybe... But it did bind two Lord of Order and Chaos. Now can SBP be drained through magical means. Hmm... I would need to see more on that. So yeah... Fate binds him. Is that considered a win? If not, then it's a stalemate.



It's late and this was annoying as hell!

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NemeBro wrote

All right, first of all I think you all put forth a pretty solid showing, except carver who was btfo by the strands of fate (sorry dude).

Id provided a solid game plan and supported it well with scans. I do however think he overlooked the fact that the blast he is banking on winning this thing with brought Fate to the brink of death, per his scan. I'm also not entirely convinced of his speed, given that the feat he posted is of the helmet solo and more importantly solely one of travel speed. Would it translate to Fate's reflexes? Maybe, but I'm not entirely convinced. However, I am willing to concede it is unlikely that he is going to be blitzed like a feeb by anyone given the feat and his auto shields. My main issue with Id's post is that, while it supported his character well with reason and evidence, it didn't really address any interactions with any opponents very well, where some very well might have been warranted, particularly in the case Superboy Prime who has at the very least a very high resistance to magic.

Moving onto LoB, first of all, bruh, did you just link wikipedia as evidence for this tourney? Not once, but twice? Anyway, LoB did address some of the capabilities of the other characters, though I'd argue not really sufficiently in some cases. Some of his scans also didn't really support his case like he wanted them to, like the first two examples of Prime's performance while depowered to a weaker state. There is also no scan posted supporting how sundipping might affect SBP, so I'm not taking a hypothetical sun amp into account. Overall though, he did support his claims on SBP's capabilities adequately, and his crude and honestly kind of stupid strategy does in particular take at least one of the people who actually bothered to post (lol) out of the fight convincingly I think.

Now carver... who knew that when he started off his post with "Alright, so my process is simple and easy but just know, I will provide evidence for everything that I say.", his post would then proceed to not have a single working scan that so much as has Amazo in it. It's not even really fair, since I know it's not entirely your fault carver, but it is what it is. The only scans posted that worked were SBP ones. laughing out loud I read the write-up. I thought it was solid enough as far as write-ups go, and your strategy was fairly clever. Unfortunately, your strategy also hinged on the presence of Monarch, who uh, is no longer in this tourney. The heart of the cards really phucked you this time young buck.

beatboks definitely had one of the more interesting and clever write-ups. All his claims for Obsidian's capabilities were pretty well-supported, and his case against Dr. Fate, the other more esoteric and versatile character in the tourney, is particularly strong. However, his evidence for how Obsidian can handle speedsters was good, but didn't convince me it would let him phuck with SBP. This is mostly important for the simple fact that LoB's strategy, stupid as it is, is honestly a really solid counter to Obsidian in particular, which LoB touched on. While beatboks did show Obsidian isn't easily one-shot by a bright light, the scans shown clearly indicate it still definitely hurts him, and with Prime's ability to push the planet at superluminal speeds (Obsidian capping out at luminal implicitly) the battlefield is going to get extremely bright extremely fast.

Now, onto DarkSaint. Another creative game plan, particularly since he's using such a fundamentally limited character as Huc. He supported his claims well with scans, and also took into account the capabilities of his opponents, or at least the one who wouldn't be btfo by his opening act. However, said opening act hinges on a claim that I, honestly, didn't find particularly convincing. I will grant the vague artwork of Hulk clasping his hand doesn't necessarily disprove his claim, but the case is still flimsy. I just don't buy based on the evidence presented, merely that Hulk "should" have damaged the wishing machine if he touched it, thus he doesn't need to do it to depower a host of trans tier characters is too hard a sell without something more rock solid. Furthermore, as it pertains to Hulk's claimed immortality, the scan posted in support of that seems to indicate that it is the magic of the Dark Dimension that is keeping people in the fight alive.

tl'dr verdict:

I think everyone put forth a solid showing. Id supported Fate's prowess well, but his refusal to take into account his opponents' capabilities and the magic immunity of Superboy Prime in particular hamstrung him. SBP's posted feats of escaping attempts at containment didn't help, with that being another element of Fate's strategy. carver's Amazo theoretically exists, but given that I have seen no evidence of his existence I can't factor him into my verdict. LoB's post is pretty rough around the edges with some questionable sourcing and scans that don't necessarily support his claims, but his game plan is solid and well-supported as are SBP's abilities. beatboks honestly probably had the post with the least amount of technical flaws in it, but LoB's strategy is a pretty strong counter to Obsidian, nor am I convinced Obsidian could bury SBP under the weight of his own sins before he'd start feeling the burn. I'm not too convinced by DS's premises of being able to make wishes without the wishing machine or being incapable of dying, but I am convinced given feats posted that he'd survive the planet being put in the sun, contrary to LoB's claims.

For how I think the fight would go based on the posts, I think SBP (LoB) wins. I think that SBP will manage to nullify Obsidian by pushing the world into the sun, leaving Fate, WBH, and SBP himself alive to survive it. Fate's ability to do any damage to Prime is questionable, so either Prime will engage Fate and defeat him, or will engage WBH. Were Fate to interfere in this fight, he could certainly do some damage to Hulk, but this would only increase Prime's own chances of winning. Strength between SBP and WBH is hard to call but gun to my head I think I'd pick WBH based on the evidence in the posts alone. SBP's greater invulnerability and his vastly superior speed and versatility would incline me to give the win in a mano el mano to Prime. The possibility of Fate running interference which can only hurt Hulk just makes it clearer to me. Amazo is theoretically present for all of this but we will never really know.

One vote for LoB (ugh...).
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So as of now the score stands:

Dr. Fate: 1

Prime: 1

Obsidian: 1

and I'm waiting on a few more verdicts !


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So as of now the score stands:

Dr. Fate: 1

Prime: 1

Obsidian: 1

and I'm waiting on a few more verdicts !

As head judge I guess you accepted the Fate binding of SBP as a win?


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-Pr- wrote on Oct 2nd, 2018 08:40 PM:
Here you go:

As I tend to do when judging tourneys, I try to set aside anything I know about participating characters going in, so as far as I'm concerned, it's up to the debators to convince me by themselves without any bias coming in to it. It tends to make things more interesting too.

The first argument, the one for Fate was a really nice, practical one, though I worried as I read it how... Narrow, it felt. I didn't buy the speed argument completely, but I was willing to accept that it MIGHT be possible, so I kept an open mind even if I wondered how someone this powerful was merely trans level. An early favourite before I even read the next post.

Prime shoving the planet in to the sun made me chuckle. Straight up ballsy move, even if I'm not sure that would be enough to actually win the fight itself. Prime's supposed "magic immunity" made me concerned for how Fate would go up against him, and when I came back to this argument later, I just couldn't help but feel like Prime wouldn't be able to win the actual fight using this strategy. Also, the formatting of that post was atrocious. Try using more lowercase. Presentation means a lot.

Amazo... A lot seemed to be based on taking what Carver believed was a natural extension of Amazo's powers, without posting sufficient proof. Literally. Links are no good to me when they don't work, dude. The Monarch strategy obviously has no use now considering dropouts, but I did feel like Carver's argument was one of the more versatile ones. I'd have liked to see more.

The Obsidian argument was really, really nicely laid out, and while I wouldn't always recommend it, beatboks was smart to try getting ahead of the curve, bringing up some counter-arguments so that he could pre-emptively argue against them. Obsidian was made to look beastly in the post, and he had a nice strategy that I feel would be capable of winning if not for Prime trying to push the planet in to the sun.

Darksaint's "**** you I have one wish" argument, I liked for the most part. It's simple, to the point, and has all kinds of possibilities. Whether it would work or not... I wasn't totally convinced, but I was intrigued enough to give it the benefit of the doubt. The sheer power Hulk could bring to bear added to his case, and it made him seem like it would take a lot to bring him down, even when going up against someone like Obsidian.

I thought about it, and thought about it, and in the end I ended up going with Darksaint, even if the scans he used reminded me of how horribly written that thing was.


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laughing out loud a four-way tie. you need a tie-breaker, one post rebuttal. thumb up

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Some please vote for carver.

Let this be the first time we all win.


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Dr. Fate wins.

My vote to "id."


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Some please vote for carver.

Let this be the first time we all win.


If that happens I'll declare it a 5 way victory thumb up


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Smurph wrote on Oct 3rd, 2018 02:10 PM:
Smurph verdict:

First thing: there's not enough evidence to show that WBH can wish away his trans tier opponents without the wishing machine.

With that out of the way, I vote for Carver. Not to create a 5-way tie (lol), but because I think he won this in the drafts and through a classic speed strat. Carver has enough to ride to victory here despite: 1) mostly dead links, and 2) no Monarch on the field.

Reasoning: Carv's opening move, copying SBP, is intact. I suppose there's a lingering question of whether this specific Amazo can copy, but I think the strategy falls well within Amazo's well established history. This is Amazo, and I frankly think judges are raising the evidence bar for Carver just because it's Carver (especially given the allowances made for other claims in these one-post tourneys /shrug). And while many of the scans don't work, one scan shows that Flash powers (presumably stacked with SM and WW) are probably enough for Amazo to reach SBP during SBP's planet push, which is all that's needed here.

With that, I think Amazo-SBP is enough to overcome his opponents, who he will presumably keep copying because, Amazo.

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Stax Vote:

I actually do not have a whole lot of knowledge on most of these characters so i really came in without any preconceived notions.

ID - Representing Dr. Fate

Very compelling argument. With the 2nd scan stating “while inside the gem” makes me want more context about the nature of the powers. Like does being inside the gem make magic more powerful? A little bit more for someone like me who has not read any dr fate is needed to figure how truly powerful these scans are, that being said i figured they analogous to Marvels cosmics as far as chaos and order is concerned and bumped it up some since DC characters usually are wider power sets and are just usually more powerwise.

I couldn't sign off on the cosmic awareness giving the future just that it gives infinite perceptions connections and confusion. The amalgam of man + woman + god should be the perfect vessel to be able to figure out the best strategy/outcome like DR Strange in IW but i did not see it in the scan. That was my major one of my major qualms. Your speed and power would definitely give pause to most player on the field. The spell casting scan did not to me prove you could since the one he spoke was ineffective and so was the one unspoken. Since you listed "Skin of Sorugar". As the first spell i started with that and went down.

Lord of Brooklyn - Superboy Prime

Wow. I didn't even know. I believe that LOB has proven magic immunity enough that he would not be bound by Dr Fate. And going towards a sun will only further amp SBP making the others focus on you more. I believe you have proven almost everything, you can be speed blitzed by yours and carver scans, if decent speedster can get some good licks in, not fight ending by any means, but distracting enough for other things to happen. I think with durability and magic immunity SBP is helluva contender, especially with the SUN move. None of the other judges marked off stating there wasn't a sun in the OP so i will go with the idea that there is.

Carver9 - Amazo

Props for strategy. Couldn't see the scans. Assuming you do what was possible for you to do with everyone else’s strategy, you would have to be a bit more detailed on who and how you would attack. I believe this could have been a helluva contender if stratagem is more fleshed out.

beatboks - Obsidian

New to this guy too. Scan successfully showed that intangibility, and good offense even to SBP. My qualm is how long it would take to fill the world with darkness especially going closer and closer to a STAR. I couldn't really tell if possession power was magical in nature or not but since stating going in to shadow form at onset of battle leaves you open for WBH’s and Fates depowering/binding as i did not see a magical immunity.

WorldBreaker Saint

Hadn't read WBH and wish machine yet. For me the wish worked. A+ for strategy you really cocked up just about everyone on the field. I assumed that Fate still dodged you wish by his first spell. Other than that could have been a thing for sure.

TLDR

I see the battle like this. Obsidian starts off taking a few moments enguld planet in darkenss, at the same time hulk and fate makes wish/cast spells. Everyone is depowered except for FATE and SBP and HULK. at this point Fate binds everyone except for SBP who is already flying the planet to closest star. With sun amping more and more and with the magic immunity Fates ‘godblasts’ are less and less effective if they were at all. SBP physically overwpowers Fate whilst everyone else is Bound/depowered.

SBP wins

Ps. i will now read some obsidian though.


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LoB is the winner!! Congratulations!!

All things considered, what a great tournament!! Excellent posts! Thank you for everything judges!


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