Yes, and I saw him get his hand lopped off and I saw him die from the forcefield. The same forcefield that outriders pushed through. Then I saw him die again by a 60-80 ton Giant man stepping on him.
No doubt Cull wins a straight up fight.but he is not that durable compared to top tier of mcu. The yautja have the arsenal to kill him if they were hunting. Cloak>plasma cast/shuriken/acid/spear to the head should make it a wrap.
And repulsors are not the same as superheated plasma that cuts through metal a step down from vibranium. Plus being invisible is kind of a big deal
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You are horribly overrating your favs and downplaying their opponent, as always.
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Before we even get to anything else, how did you come to the conclusion that Endgame Giant Man weighs 60 to 80 tons? I would very much like to see the calculations you did to reach this number.
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But the only reason why Cull Obsidian's hand gets lopped off is due to a magic portal closing on him while the forcefield also did killed most of the Outriders when they first started ramming through it (and Cull Obsidian wasn't even forcing his way through it) and isn't Cull Obsidian on par with Hulkbuster Iron man which was designed to trade blows with Hulk?
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Yeah, the Outriders had to swarm the energy field en masse to overwhelm it enough so that some could survive pushing through. And even then they quickly realised it was a bad strategy, which is why they started circling around it instead, forcing the Wakandans to open a portion to funnel them through. Not to mention Cull got dragged along it for like a 100 feet before the Hulkbuster gauntlet presumably exploded (Tony's had parts of his armor rigged to explode in the past as well, like in IM3). And that's ignoring the fact that the same energy field could withstand impacts like this:
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Also, this bulldozer Deathlok is pushing is a PR764 crawler, which weighs between 45,000 and 53,000 kg (people can Google it themselves if they don't believe me).
I can't fathom how anyone could think Endgame Giant Man is only slightly heavier than that.
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Especially when he could punch out Leviathans who could plough through skyscrapers without issue.
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Because Giant Man was 65 feet tall. How much do you think he weighs? Assuming he was 100 feet tall at max he could possibly be 300 tons but that would require a much denser bone and muscle structure than humans have to support it
For reference:
Blue Whale: 150 feet long=100 tons
Brachiasaur:50 feet tall/less than 100 feet long=62 tons
Kong (2017): 100 feet tall=a little over 100 tons
"Weight is a function of volume, and volume increases as the cube of linear dimensions. A 50-foot woman would be 9.375 times taller than an average woman, and thus would weight 9.375 x 9.375 x 9.375 times an average woman's weight. With an average weight of 120 lbs, the 50-foot woman would weight 98,877 pounds, or 45 metric tons."
So @ hulkster. Noo y'all are just mcu fanboys.
Invisiblle plus weaponry that can kill him means that he can lose this fight.
Before y'all fangirl out to much. How does Cull defend himself from something he can't see? The yautja will immediately go invisible and then he gets a Dlex naginata through his skull.
As always? I rarely do that and I always back it up with actual feats or actual information..And if I am wrong, I always admit it.
You are...... completely ignoring the predators gear and abilities and pretending like they are going to punch it out.
I am sorry that I have a little bit of common sense and know that a being that uses invisible technology might go ****ing invisible when a 10 foot tall behemoth comes charging at him?
Don't ya think? I mean please put forth your scenario of how this fight goes down.
It is mind boggling that y'all are calling me out for using common sense and science.
@vault-bulldozers are solid metal, scott lang is not. That should point you in the right direction.
Last edited by ShadowFyre on Nov 14th, 2020 at 03:17 PM
But here you go. People actually did calculations for CW Giant-Man, not some hypothetical 50 foot woman. And Giant-Man was much larger and proportionally more massive in Endgame, so he would be much heavier than this number:
And the evidence does support his bones actually being much denser and heavier than a normal upscaled man, as he's repeatedly shown much larger proportional strength at giant size than a simply enlarged Scott would.
Also, please provide the source for your blue whale length? Because every source I have seen put them at less than a 100 feet in length on average. Hell, the longest documented example I could find was only 110 feet, and they put her at around 190 tons.
And no one said anything about the Predator's weapons or the result of your "hunt" scenario, so stop trying to twist other people's arguments.
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Yes, because being solid metal (like portions of Scott's armor, like his helmet and gauntlets) makes up for the fact that it's barely larger than EG Giant-Man's foot.
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And it's easy to account for any extra density he might gain at enlarged size because of Pym particle magic (just like he often loses mass when going tiny, or he'd squash any flying ant he'd try to ride or massively weigh down people in those instances when he's sitting on their shoulder etc.), which does whatever the writers need it to. Because, as I have already pointed out, a 60 to 80 ton Giant-Man would not have been able to punch out a Leviathan that can ram right through a skyscraper without missing a beat. He would have shattered his arm instead. Nor would he have been able to bust through all the rubble of the Avengers mansion. He would have been crushed in the attempt.
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Last edited by TheVaultDweller on Nov 14th, 2020 at 04:34 PM
I put length and weight reversed on the blue whale part sorry. But I am literally right on the money with the weight.
So he is about 120 tons if he is 100 feet tall. With 300 being a far out there weight.
We usually get along but your kinda being a little weird about this, maybe I'm just reading you wrong today.
First off, I didn't make a hunt scenario. I said there would be two different outcomes. The predator is going to go invisible,no ifs ands or buts, that is there go to move. Whether it's a hunt or a fight, the predator has an immediate and clear advantage over cull. This can't be denied.
And this is where you kinda pissed me off.
Hypothetical 50 foot woman? Well, both a 50 foot woman and a 100 foot tall Giant man have appeared in movies. We both provided science to back up our claims. Both of us are right, except I used the official height that I looked up which was 65 feet which would make him about 60-80 tons.
So why is my 50 foot woman (been around a lot longer than giant man) hypothetical? But your giant man is real and your science is better than the same science I used?
That's a very h1 thing to say. My movie character is hypothetical but yours is real? That just doesn't sound like something you would say.
And the leviathan thing is useless, so did Hulk and he weighs like a 1000 lbs. We both know comic punches have nothing to do with physics
And clear as day I said Cull would win a fight. (So **** you hulkster, as I clearly didn't fanboy)I am just pointing out that a predator has the gear and abilities to kill Cull if it so chooses to do so while people just completely ignore the yautja abilities and gear
Wrong again. He is about 120 tons at 65 feet. That's a calculation for his Civil War weight. Not his 45-odd foot taller Endgame weight. It's directly stated multiple times in the source I provided, including the title itself.
Again, I never said anything regarding your comments about the Predator's weapons or stealth. I questioned you specifically about your Giant-Man numbers, because that's what I took issue with.
And hypothetical in the application of using it to estimate Giant-Man's mass compared to actually using Giant-Man himself to calculate it, which is perfectly doable. Because there are other factors as well, such as men generally having greater bone density, which partially contributes to their greater mass. I genuinely don't know how you got to "my character is real and yours isn't" from that.
And Hulk's punch and Scott's punch played out totally differently. Hulk punched it into the ground and then had to push against it with his whole body, causing it to flip tail over end. And even then he got pushed backwards by its momentum. Scott clocked it in the air hard enough that it went completely off course and crashed into the ground by itself, while he barely missed a step before continuing forward. So, mass clearly did make a difference based on how the punches were depicted.
But whatever. I can't be bothered to keep responding to you after this post.
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