Now this may seem odd - since i'm the one that got KMCensored for speaking out against snakehead and his what i found to be offensive attitude.
But i'm not sure if he is as bad as you paint: yes people can be around homosexuals and think they are being accepting and liberal minded only to find themselves accused as perhaps shallower than they thought when the chips are down.
Lord knows each of us has our own prejudices that crop up unbidden sometimes - i think that the problem is that sometimes people think that because they dont freak out at the idea and once were in a room with a gay man they are right-on!
Its not necessarily bigotry or a belief that gays or blacks or Iranians are LESSER humans, it's just a lack of understanding, a lack of education, a lack of exposure.
I really doubt that god would send anyone into the pit fires of hell for sharing the core of someone they love.
Forget all that scary hell talk.
Yeah, god is going to punish you for being your natural self. We're born heterosexual, bisexual, gay etc. If god wants to punish us for something we cant change, well then that's no god of mine.
I dunno, keep in mind this is the same god that sends everyone to hell unless they've "confessed" their sins, and the same god that allows us to be born with "original sin" and will send us to hell even if we've led a good, wholesome life because of this.
Your statement only serves to validate my argument. Even the religious persons point of view has changed, evolved... One century God says one thing, then the next he says something different. Why? Because God is fickle? No, because God as he is believed to exist was created by flawed, prejudice MAN.
Look, I am a spiritual person. I believe in a higher power...maybe not GOd as he/she/it is represented by the Judeo-Christian outlook...but certainly in a great creator/force that has some hand in the fate of the universe...and each of us.
So, if a Christian from the dark ages can look at aChristian from today and say that he is going to hell because of the differences in moral opinion and religious outlook, then why can't a Christian from today look at the future and find room for a gay man?
**Not to say that some can not, but there are certainly a lot who can't**
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I dunno. Lots of people are afraid of change, and that's what gay marriges represent. It WOULD be a major change, even though gays themselves think it wont effect anyone but themselves. It would raise questions about moral righteousness and whatnot, and alot will be going on.
I'm all for it, but my opinion doesn't matter. I can't even vote yet.
It will inevitably happen. It's been coming slowly for years, and no matter what people do to stop it, gay marriage is going to become legal. In fact if anything, amending the constitution to make it illegal is just going to make people even more angry and it will come sooner.
There is a difference between morals and right and wrong. Morals are largely a matter of opinion. Right is right and wrong is wrong. It is wrong to kill someone. It is a matter of morals to assist a terminal cancer patient with suicide.
As far as opinions are concerned, everyone can have their opinion. But, just remember that it is no longer your opinion once it starts to effect me...or anyone for that matter.
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ok , i now surrender this thread to the powers that be ...........
that being done , now i will say this .
God does not punish us for are sexuality . in fact we are part of god and he makes us who we are . so why the hell would we go to Hell for being what he made us to to be ?
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Jul 30th, 2004 11:27 PM
We're born heterosexual, bisexual, gay etc. If god wants to punish us for something we cant change, well then that's no god of mine.
