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finti
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Would they join even if they had the chance..
doubtful

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I think now with the discussion of having a new council it is time to get rid of this rediculous "organisation"

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First of all the main security members should be changed...

Perhaps:
Japan
Germany
Italy
basically the axis powers stick out tongue laughing out loud
and various more countries that illude my mind at this moment, like an Arabic or Spain or even Isreal.
It has been a long time since WW2 and the present situation says:
Britian, US, France, China, and Russia


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Some good points, and one of Germany's main claims is that in terms or nations who make contributions it ranks 3rd, technically 2nd. The contributions range from the funds it donates to various other physical aspects. The UN has no real equipment, when it does something, it is up to nations to donate or buy this. In terms of the 5 current members very few make such contributions... and that is only part of it, ideally by expanding it it will allow greater representation, more chance for debate and lead to other changes and better management, as at the moment the nations that "contribute" the most, outside the US, have no say in the management of such things, and a good deal of it is squandered.....


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Germany maybe, but I think India (along with Pakistan) seem too unstable. I mean, they can't get along with their neighbors......


The Security Council should probably just be the nations that supply the bulk of peacekeeping troops.

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I personally believe that; Russia, Great Britain, France, Germany & the United States only got to be on the Security Council because they were the prime victors of World War II, the same goes with the League of Nations. Taiwan joined the Security Council in 1949-1954 until the seventies when they realized that Mainland China, Peoples Republic of China was the power to represent Asia on the Security Council.

With the new nations wishing to become permament members of the Security Council and nations that are relatively known military powers that hold greatness. These nations do not hold economical and financial capabilities to make the UN Security Council stronger in action. For Economic embargos as a use of peaceful force in a resolution.

On this subject, I believe the nations should be voted into the Security Council, like the temporary security council for four to five years.

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germany was not a victor of WWII

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and one of Germany's main claims is that in terms or nations who make contributions it ranks 3rd, technically 2nd
if you look at how much it is compare to their BNP they wouldnt rank as high. The ranking is how much % it amount up to of the total UN budget so of course big countries can donate a higher amount simply due to its large population. If everybody gave as big % share of their BNP we would have taken a step further.

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I bet the UN was the role model for Gorge Lucas when he created how the imperial senate should be like

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Hahaha. Possibly, possibly. And its true, the nations on the Permanent Security council at the moment, those 5 with the veto power, are only there as they were the victors of WWII, as the UN replaced the defunct League. Certainly there is something to be said for updating it. And from what I see, stablity isn't a main focus, India has the worlds largest population, and is one of the fastest growing economies, and has nuclear capabilities, and as such it believes it deserves a stronger voice. Which is perhaps a good point, especially when you look at the Council and see that it is primarily westernised, there is no Middle or Near Eastern voice, Asia (the economic giant of this era) is only slightly represented, and there is nothing from Africa.


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Originally posted by finti
I bet the UN was the role model for Gorge Lucas when he created how the imperial senate should be like

so when do we get rid of it then happy

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When the UN gets an annoying member called Jar Jar?


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When the UN gets an annoying member called Jar Jar?
they have that in the Swedish representative

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they have that in the Swedish representative


Is this discussion based on who should pay more money into the UN or who should actually be allowed to join? It's been hard to follow so far erm


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a bit of both I think. Swedens should pay Norways shareevil face

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a bit of both I think. Swedens should pay Norways shareevil face


And what Finti says goes, right?


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swedish? I thought the french were always the mocking stock blink

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And what Finti says goes, right?
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swedish? I thought the french were always the mocking stock
havent started yet evil face

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