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Who do you think is the best football player ever?

Tell who you think the best football player ever is.



I think that John Elway is the QB ever. but however he dose have alot of contenders.

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football?? as in GOO Patriots!!!

or Football as in Manchester United, or David Beckham




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Yea Patriots are the best team

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Either Bret Farve or Emit Smith


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yea we need a position.. and if your talkin QB i love bret farve and hes maybe top 5 but not the best..

hello montana, unitas? they rule farve and Elway.. by the end of mannings carear he could prove to be at the top of the list


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Diego Maradona undoubtedly had the most natural talent, but Pele had more upstairs to go with his talent, and so is the best footballer ever.

The best soccer player? I dunno, only started watching it a coupla years ago. From what I've seen I reckon Brett Favre.


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In football, you use your foot to kick the ball, hence the name.

Americans add throwing, pads, alter the length of the game etc, i.e. change it completely yet still call it football.

Then they call the original soccer, and expect the rest of the world to adopt this bastard name. Pish.

From hence forth American football shall be known as "soccer." by me.

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Diego Maradona undoubtedly had the most natural talent, but Pele had more upstairs to go with his talent, and so is the best footballer ever.

The best soccer player? I dunno, only started watching it a coupla years ago. From what I've seen I reckon Brett Favre.

This thread is not about soccer smile

Greatest Soccer player of all time

Yes I know this is kinda confusing.


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That's why we can refer to it as NFL or American Football.

QB--Joe Montana. He had three Super Bowl MVPs, and in the one where he wasn't MVP, he led his team 90 yards to the winning score. Though you may say he is just a system quarterback, no one was more successful than him.

RB--Jim Brown. As much as I love Barry Sanders, Jim Brown was just the best. He left early with all the records--the amazing numbers he put up were in 12 and 14 game seasons.

WR--Don Maynard. It is extremely close between him and Jerry Rice's. Don Maynard's stats were even higher than his contemporaries than Rice's are today. Just look at his stats compared to his fellow Hall of Famers, it is staggering, especially in an era where the rules weren't as tilted towards offense as they are today.


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The original title of the thread was.........

Who do you think is the best football player ever?

Now some buttmonkey changed the thread title, leading said buttmonkey to make a post ripping into my good self.

Might I suggest that if you want to talk about AMERICAN football, you call it AMERICAN football in the title of the thread.


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In football, you use your foot to kick the ball, hence the name.

Americans add throwing, pads, alter the length of the game etc, i.e. change it completely yet still call it football.

Then they call the original soccer, and expect the rest of the world to adopt this bastard name. Pish.

From hence forth American football shall be known as "soccer." by me.

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quote:
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The original title of the thread was.........

Who do you think is the best football player ever?

Now some buttmonkey changed the thread title, leading said buttmonkey to make a post ripping into my good self.

Might I suggest that if you want to talk about AMERICAN football, you call it AMERICAN football in the title of the thread.
Now the so-called buttmonkey says that he's not criticizing or mocking you. He admitted that the title was confusing and changed it thatnks to you, because you did show it was confusing.
He adds you shouldn't feel as if you were attacked or bashed. He didn't use any sarcasm. And he thinks there is actually no problem here.

If you think there is, don't hesitate to PM him.


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payton manning, andre johnson,brett favre.. and david carr will get good someday


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Payton Manning is tied for the record of most touchdown passes in a single game so I say him along with Brett Farve, and some of the retired QBs


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First of all, anyone coming into a thread about football and seeing the names of Brett Favre and John Elway, and STILL thinks this is about soccer has more imporant personal issues than soccer to deal with.

Now to the question, I think for their times Jim Brown and Johnny Unitas were legends. I was born in 1975, so when I was growing up Joe Montana, Roger Craig, Dan Marino, and Marcus Allen were tearing it up.

I think Joe Montana was one of the greatest, not because he put up great statistics with great talent around him, but because he was so cool, so collected when the games mattered. Albeit playoffs or Super Bowl, when the guy dropped back to pass everyone knew it had a kickass chance of doing some damage.

Nowadays, I look at Peyton Manning and what he is doing is remarkable, but I'd (along with the media, I guess) like to see if he can perform at that level until late into the night on February the 6th. I'm not a Colts fan by any means, but I wouldn't put him as one of the greatest until that happens, whenever it may be.


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Ray Lewis.

I've never seen one man take over an entire defense the way he did the year he got the MVP. He was in on almost every tackle, he broke up passes and is a great leader for his team.

Offense gets the glory, but defense wins championships.


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Ray Lewis has lost a step, but the MVP year was something else.
For instance, he's already been taken out and flattened on his backside by Steelers FB Dan Kreider on a few one-on-one battles this year. But Lewis is still a great player.


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I never ever saw the fullback from the steelers flatback Ray Lewis one-on-one. That would have been pointed out on Sportscenter and on NFL Tonight.

All Ray needs to do is go kill someone and his performance will pick back up.


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I never ever saw the fullback from the steelers flatback Ray Lewis one-on-one. That would have been pointed out on Sportscenter and on NFL Tonight.


If you were a Steelers fan you would have seen it from the replay from re-watching the game in week 2 that you taped on the VCR! big grin

It may have been on Sportscenter, but I don't think it qualified as Sporting newsflash of the year or anything like that.


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nah, i just figured that a talk show like NFL Live or one of the shows on ESPN would have done coverage with spot shadows and stuff.

So what makes you a Steelers fan?


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I was born 1975, sandwiched between Super Bowl IX and X wins. Then they won XIII and XIV when I was three or four. I visit there about once a year and go to a game. Just went to the 16-7 win over Redskins.
I'm a pretty realistic Steelers fan. If we're losing I'll admit it but if we're winning I can't stop talking about the wins.


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This is a hard question to answer. Alot has changed in football over the years. Twenty years ago, you oculd do pretty much what you wanted to, to the wide recievers, as long as you werent blatant with it. Today, you cant even sneeze on a wide reciever. Rules, condtioning, and speed of the game has changed alot over the years.

as for quarter back i owuld have to say either Ben roethlisberger LOL just kidding. seriously joe montana is probably the best at what he did.

Wide reciever, Jerry rice

running back...I would have to say barry Sanders, his numbers may not be the best, but he did play with a terrible losing team for how many years, and he also gave it up early on in his career.


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