YEah, I was kinda refferring to the classic Trilogy with those comments.
I can see why people dont like the prequels, they have a ton of fundamental faults that the originals never had. You need to be a fan or a very forgiving newcomer to enjoy them.
What confused me, is like, 20 odd people I know who didn't really even know what Star Wars was until the trailers for ROTS went to the midnight screening, It was just like some thing that everyone was doing, and it was cool to stay up on a school night or something...
I'm a huge Star Wars fan, but the reason people aren't interested (the tweenies) is for the exact reasons listen in this thread. Building model R2s, dressing as wookies, and practicing on your huttees, or building your life around Yoda's teachings (which are just general low-level budhist) is just plain lame to the general population.
It's the same reason you won't see Star Trek back on the air for another ten years or so.
The die-hard fans alienate the non-fans.
Appreciate the movies for what they are (bubble-gum space operas) and you're fine. The minute you step over that, you're alienating the "normies"
I love Star Wars. I love the EU. But the pure geek-dom drives people away.
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When i was say 5 -8 i didn't really know what SW was and i heard some bad things about it but i didn't bad mouth it.
I saw the first it was ok but saw third mayjor like but i never bad mouth it but because it has to do with space and tec. it's for geeekzz???.
You know what one of my friends is a geek and she says starwars is for geeks ? im like confused but i think it for those who have a brain and the dialoge and everything is simple to understand it's not rocket science.
But people just only like Sister hood of traveling pants that's a little scary they share their pant's weird no guy would do that and i wouldn't .
But if don't like something keep your mouth shut if you bad mouth SW i would cut your mouth off with a lightsaber if i had one but still don't like tuff luck.
sorry it just makes my blood boil! my dad admitted to me that he couldnt get into Star Wars, and he's only saw parts of of a few episode's - which im fine about. I accept its not everyone's cup of tea, but atleast he knows the basics, like:
Anakin becomes Darth Vader.
Luke and Leia are brother and sis, and Vader is there father.
He's heard of Yoda (who hasnt?)
He's heard of Han Solo (who hasnt?)
Obi-Wan Kenobi, etc, etc, etc!
Its impossible not to know anything about Star Wars whether you like it or not. Its a worldwide phenomenon, that has pretty much been apart of lifes for almost 3 decades!
i know people dont like the new star wars movies, because they are poorly written and for the most part poorly acted. Why they dont like the oringals is beyond me.
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I'll answer the question as to why I personally don't like Star Wars, and I'll do it respectfully, but frankly. I recognize that many people love the whole star wars universe and I think I can see why.
The main reason I don't like SW is that the story and execution feel hokey and contrived. I think there's a good story in there, but it got wrecked by a weird sort of excess, extremely schmaltzy humor and a desperate attempt to validate itself with a sense of importance that the story and execution don't merit.
Throw in characters like jar jar binks and I'm reaching for the air sickness bag.
My personal arc into science fiction on the screen began like a lot of people with Star Trek (TOS) then 2001: A Space Odyssey, which, for me, remains the one of the high water marks of science fiction film. I also have a deep respect for Fritz Lang's Metropolis, which, 87 years later, puts many SF films to shame. I mean, 1927, people, and he absolutely RAWKED it.
I expect science fiction to be largely dark in message and story and I absolutely 100% expect it to be free of slapstick cornball goober-grade humor.
On the upside, I think it's great that so many people view Star Wars reverently as a kind of mythology they can aspire to...that is one of the things fiction should do. I also respect the things that were invented for the little sets..IIRC, something with chains and gears to ensure that camera fly-bys would behave as though on a real craft...That's pretty clever and very effective, and I think holds up as well or better than any other aspect of those first films.
thank you for reading,
filmcat
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It's not a mix, there's no future, there's no relationship with earth, there's no philosophical view on science and mankind... it is space fiction. Not SCIENCE fiction.
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