listen....i'd be the 1st to admit that these bowlers or pool players good kick my ass at what they do they would KICK MY ASS!...but throwing a baseball 90 mph or a curve that can break 8 inches aint the same as throwing a bowling ball...just coz its competitve dont make it a sport....if you took the syncranized olympic team and threw them agains me and some friends they would kick my ass but i dont see the how its a sport...horseshoes is competitve too and i know someone whos always kickin my ass in it but just coz i'm always the last one out there trying to beat him dont mean i'm gonna consider horseshoes a sport
please watch you language...and I think you're still obliged to give a definition...you can't just say "this is a sport...that one too...oh no this third one isn't". You have to base your opinion on other arguments that the fact that 'it "kicks your ass"'.
i dont think your even reading my posts...i said that bowlers and pool players dont requre alot if any athleticism and if you wanna call something a sport you need athletes wich requires athleticism
I've been reading your posts...That isn't a real definition, but if you consider that it's ok, then I'm ok with it.
So I definitely think that a sport does not compulsorily require athletes (at least athletes the way you understand it). My point is that the athletes we know today are only an evolution of the idea of an athlete, that has been existing for more than 2500 years now... If you just take one sport player from 1900 for instance, he absolutely does not look like the packs of muscles we can see nowadays...The particularity of a sport is that it can be a hobby, and even both a hobby and a sport at the same time... I think your problem is that you're suggesting that sport is only professional sport (with huge amounts of money at stake, medias,...). Well to me the great thing about sport is that it's universal and you don't need to be an athlete to practise one.
man i never said anything about to be a sport you need to have large amouts of money or media or whatever if thats wht your getting from my posts than your waaaay of...i said before tha althletes dont have to have mucsles but i would at least think they would have to be in shape you dont need to be ripped to shreds to be in shape..i've made my agruments about what i consider sports and hwat i dont and i agree that there are sports that are also hobbies and sports at the same time but if you take something like fishing some people are gonna say that its a sport or a hobby or both i say its a hobby and not a sport because there is no athleticism involved with fishing....if you wanna play sports even as a hobby your gonna need to require at least some athletism
I've never said you did. What's more I never said that either.
When I evoke this it is to emphasize the idea that " a current athlete" (or athleticism) is obligatorily influenced by those (money, media). My point is to show you that what you're calling 'athletes' or 'athleticism' are totally relative concepts. There was a time people shouldn't need to be really athletic to practise any sport...
Well I don't know about fishing, but it is generally considered as a sport when it come to competitions.
and just coz its competitive that dont make it a sport...at least to me it dont...almost anything can be competitive like i said horseshoes is competitive but horseshoes aint a sport and just coz its competitive that dont make it a sport
from what I hear (and think), the only thing you consider sports are
1) the things YOU like playing
2) the ones you have to be ultrafit for (having less than 4% bodyfat)
and from those two, I can easily say, if they are true, you're way off
nope that aint the case at all..if thats what your takin from my posts than your off....i fish sometimes but i dont consider it a sport so thats somethin I like to do but dont consider it a sport, bowling can be fun but i dont consider that a sport either.....football (american) lineman are far from having 4% body fat and there athletes even soccer/football players dont have 4% body fat and there athletes... like i said before you dont need to be ripped to shreds to be an athlete
some people would consider pool/billiards a sport....that means you would have to consider the best pool players to be athletes....what is so athletic about shooting pool?...playing cards is competitve too and it takes practice to be good at that...are you gonna tell me player poker is a sport or that poker players are athletes
Aside from chess, I think that most of the above are sports. They all require movement and activity, ability and timing, good judgment and anticipation. I thing the only reason chess would even be considered a sport is because it is a GAME.
Non of y'all mentioned fishing or race car driving. I don't consider those to be sports, and yet, they both occupy their fair share of the cable broadcasting time slots. They even broadcast nationwide Spelling Bees on ESPN--is that a sport? Certainly not, but it is a competition.
Yeah, I saw that right after I posted. I would be embarassed, but there is alot of content in the thread, so I can live with myself. Thanks for bringing to my attention, though.
Poker isnt a sport, its gambling. Chess isnt a sport, its a board game. Racing any type of motorized vehicle isn't a sport, its driving.
Pool and Bowling ARE sports, sports for fat people. They require much more than just pressing a pedal or moving a game peice, but they aren't sports that you run around getting all sweaty over. They require a good amount of hand eye co-ordination, just like every other sport. Archery is a sport, and you don't run around in that one. I dunno if fishing is a sport...all you do is sit there and drink beer, waiting for something to bite...
race car driving is more of a sport than pool or bowling...they drive at 200 mph have and to make decisions in less than a second or there dead, not to mention the reflexes they have to have i dont even like race car driving and i think its more of a sport than pool or bowling.....what reflexes to you have to have in pool or bowling? none....your right that most of the pool players and bowlers are fat and athletes can be fat but these guys arent even in shape so are you gonna tell me these guys are athletes?....jus coz theres hand eye co-ordination dont make it a sport...you need hand eye co-ordination to play darts and darts aint a sport...aint even close to bein a sport
I was just getting to racing...personally, I don't think of it a sport. Yes, WuTa, you're right, they do need to make split second decisions or they're dead, but in some ways, that's no different from just driving. A kid comes running after a rolling ball in the evening, the lighting is poor so you can't really see him, and then suddenly you do, and you've gotta screech to a stop--that's not much different than NASCAR or Formula-1 racing. However, supposedly racing it the number one viewed "sport" on TV over in the US (I'm not sure how accurate that is)--and if that is the case, I'm fairly sure that's just for the crashes.
Anyways, car racing doesn't involve physical prowess, and in that case, I don't think qualifies as a sport.
no i didnt i just didnt explain....look at offensive lineman there fat but there still in shape...i agree that i highy doubt that nascar is the #1 sport and i dont know if i would conisder it a sport but its defintly more os a sport than bowling or pool...makin spit second decisions goin 160 mph is a little differ than makine a spilt second decision goin 25mph to avoid a kid