There's a difference between Classic and Current? Sorry guys. As I said before, cosmics are NOT my forte. WAYYYYYY to confusing for me. I stick to the earthbound characters.
Oh. and really good points Leonidas. I gave up because Warlock just seems so above Diana in terms of power.
Kinda. She can telepathically "communicate" with animals like Aquaman does to fish. And she has a link with her mother, Cassie, Troia and the Greek Pantheon. Her telepathy has never been truly explained. She has been on the astral plane though.
I know enough about cosmics then to argue against the gems. The Soul Gem can absorb souls. And Diana has a soul. That's how she died the first time. Neron attempted to absorb her soul. Her soul was somehow "special" and it didn't happen. However the process killed her. Even the combined efforts of the JLA and the purple healing ray couldn't heal her. Soul-stealing just happens to be her kryptonite.
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<<Soul-stealing just happens to be her kryptonite.>>
damn, all that arguing for naught . . .
however, as you said, her soul is 'special', so maybe . . .
but probably not. still doesn't mean she can't nail him with the lasso first though. they both seem to have a trump card here, just who plays it first. (course his it seems WILL work, while we're usure what would happen to AW in the lasso . . .) ah well, it was a fun debate . . .
You are very right longpig. Without the soul gem, his standard powers were more than a match more Thor. His psionic powers easily swatted away Thor's Mjlonir. Thor then goaded on how Warlock wouldn't be able to stop him without it. Thor then went into sort off a Berserker mode and thrashed Warlock. Warlock is not unbeatable. She could very well goad him into battling her without his powers, but the odds of that now are slim to none. Like I said before, the Soul Gem severely hinders his standard base powers:
Height: 6 ft. 2 in.
Weight: 240 lbs.
Eyes: Red
Hair: Blond
Skin: Gold
Known Superhuman Powers: Adam Warlock possesses a number of superhuman properties and powers derived from his artificially determined genetic structure. His bone and muscle tissue is denser than human, endowing him with superhuman strength and resilience.
1. Strength Level: Adam Warlock possesses superhuman strength which he can increase even further by enhancing it with cosmic energy. Marvel directories list his strength at roughly 4 tons unenhanced - and 40 tons enhanced. This listing originates from the old handbooks - since then Warlock created new bodies for himself, pip, and gamora. Pip's new body raised his strength from a normal human - up to class 10 (perhaps higher). To what extent Warlock augmented his own strength is unknown, though since that time Warlock has been capable of doing battle with several class 100 entities. It is presumable he is at least capable of reaching class 70 or 80.
Strength Limitations: Warlock's strength is enhanced through cosmic power (and in some cases by drawing energy from the soul gem). While it is nearly impossible for him to exhaust himself, it would be possible were his stored energies drained. Warlock's strength is phenomenal, but he has yet to physically best a being such as Thor or Thanos.
2. Durability: Warlock has an immense durability - which when he is tapping cosmic energy increases even further. He took multiple blows from the brother of Ulik, who was presumably class 90 - without being harmed. He is able to withstand lightning bolts, missiles, bullets, and nuclear warheads. When at his maximum strength, Warlock is surrounded in a nimbus of energy. He has not, however, reached this peak of durability is quite some time.
Durability Limitations: When unacquainted with his new body, Warlock was easily defeated by smaller explosions and blows. This is likely because he was not channeling cosmic energy. Also, with exposure to his gem - Warlock's durability seems to decrease. He proved wholly incapable of besting Maxam or Thor in hand to hand combat. Warlock's durability seems to have a relation to his concentration as well - so when unprepared he is only slightly more durable than normal beings.
Among his body's special adaptations was an enclave of cells able to tap and transform cosmic energy for personal use. Warlock could use this energy to enhance his physical strength, endurance, and powers of recuperation. He could also employ cosmic energy to negate the force of gravity beneath him, enabling him to fly.
3. Cosmic Power: Warlock has a fair ability to tap cosmic energy for personal uses. He is unable to manipulate it as well as the Silver Surfer, or tap quantities anywhere near those Thanos of Titan does. Normally Warlock uses his cosmic power for bolts of destructive force, and to enhance his own strength and durability. When channeled into a bolt, his maximum strength was capable of destroying an area the size of the Kremlin in a single shot.
Cosmic Power Limitations: The stored cosmic power is what actually allows Warlock to function. If his power is drained from him, Warlock will become weaker. Moondragon once built a device capable of 'shutting off' Kismet (Warlock's genetic twin) and her stored energy. This caused her to collapse, unable to move. Her durability also dropped to that of a normal human while the effect was occurring. Warlock can expel his cosmic reserves faster than they regenerate, thus weakening him over time.
4.) Travel: In an Earth like atmosphere, Warlock was able to attain the speed of sound (770 miles per hour). He could use his cosmic energy to locate and enter natural space-warps (discontinuities in the fabric of space) in order to traverse interstellar space. Warlock is capable of flying faster than light in space - but he is not as fast as the Silver Surfer. He is also able to teleport short distances, but the greater the distance, the more taxing the teleportation effort. Once, in desperate need to return home, Warlock travelled into a black hole, and used it to appear closer to Earth.
5.) Energy Manipulation: Adam Warlock has demonstrated the ability to use his cosmic powers to affect energy and matter. The extent of this ability is unknown, but he was capable, with the soul gems aid, of turning Thanos of Titan to stone. The fact that Thanos, as a titan external, was able to control his own molecular structure suggests Warlock has a great degree of ability in this area. Normally, however, Warlock uses the soul gem itself for such feats. This could be related to the fact that the soul gem appears to have weakened his personal attributes.
Energy Manipulation Limitations: None that I know off
6.) Mind Power: An early bid for psionics, Warlock had them in excess. His telepathy was able to pierce telepathic shielding, and his telekinesis able to block the hammer and blows of Thor with ease. He possesses a nearly invincible telepathic shield around his mind - though psi's of Exodus, Sersi, Man-Beast strength are able to pierce this shield and affect his mind.
Mind Power Limitations: Warlock infrequently uses his psionic abilities since gaining the soul gem. He has, however, used it against Quasar to force illusions upon him. It is unclear exactly how Warlock's mind functions, but it was apparently complex enough to be too great a distraction during the Infinity Gauntlet while he fought the heroes.
7.) Soul Affinity: Adam Warlock has demonstrated a close affinity to his own, and other, souls. This is likely because of his longstanding relationship with the soul gem. Even without the gem Warlock is able to sense another's soul - commune with it - and possibly affect it. He can commit exorcisms within a body as well.
Soul Affinity Limitations: He does not often use these abilities - and it can be assumed that they are at least in some fashion augmented by the gem itself.
These base powers are increased to more efficient levels without the Soul Gem. WW still wouldn't be able to beat him him.
Hehe...same stuff I posted on Pg. 1 Sentry. In any case, if he's been able to telekinetically stop Mjolnir, I don't see how Diana would harm him much at all. Really the only advantage WW has is strength (and the lasso) and given all that Warlock can do, strength doesn't seem so "strong" in this fight.
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