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Originally posted by armandovalles
I think Ben is highly underrated here. I mean, in the Superman/FF crossover, Ben had a great showing against Cyborg Supes, who is at least at Superman-level, but just so i dont do a repeat thread of everyone saying Ben would be dead in seconds im adding special stipulations to give Ben more of a chance. First, Superman cannot use his eye beams, speed blitz, or Ice Breath/Super Breath. Second, Superman has one hand tied behind his back by an 1rst-grade-adamantium Coil. Third, Superman cannot give Ben a ring out, such as punching or throwing him too far away from the fight to continue, and there is no using the Sun either to throw/hit Ben into. Fourth, Superman gives Ben 2 free shots to start off the fight, and Ben can use whatever he wants for those fights, such as dropping large things on him, hitting him with objects, etc. And finally, Ben gets 3 hours of prep time help with Reed while Superman gets a half-hour of prep time help with Bruce.

So can Ben pull it off?

desperation is a horrible horrible thing

~wickerman~

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Originally posted by armandovalles
I think Ben is highly underrated here. I mean, in the Superman/FF crossover, Ben had a great showing against Cyborg Supes, who is at least at Superman-level, but just so i dont do a repeat thread of everyone saying Ben would be dead in seconds im adding special stipulations to give Ben more of a chance. First, Superman cannot use his eye beams, speed blitz, or Ice Breath/Super Breath. Second, Superman has one hand tied behind his back by an 1rst-grade-adamantium Coil. Third, Superman cannot give Ben a ring out, such as punching or throwing him too far away from the fight to continue, and there is no using the Sun either to throw/hit Ben into. Fourth, Superman gives Ben 2 free shots to start off the fight, and Ben can use whatever he wants for those fights, such as dropping large things on him, hitting him with objects, etc. And finally, Ben gets 3 hours of prep time help with Reed while Superman gets a half-hour of prep time help with Bruce.

So can Ben pull it off?

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Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
By great showing..do you mean Ben getting a sucker punch while cyborg was weakened by Galactus tech?

Either supes or borg would smoke Grimm.

Not with those stipulations

God....i can't swallow my drink from all this laughing

~wickerman~

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Originally posted by roughrider
Could the pineapple Thing ( you remember his spiky look) with his power upgrade have a better shot? Looked close to Doomsday power.

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Originally posted by armandovalles
He was probly more like around CM level, but not DD level.

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Originally posted by Wickerman
Not with those stipulations

God....i can't swallow my drink from all this laughing

~wickerman~

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Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
True...I read it again and saw how ridiculous it really sounds.
I've never seen so many limitations in a fight...

My dog vs. a paraplegic dismembered disembowled Daredevil

CAN THE DOG WIN????!?!?!?!?!?



~wickerman~

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Originally posted by Draco69
for god's sake this is like letting the retarded kid win the basketball game....even though he threw the ball through the window.

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Originally posted by Wickerman
My dog vs. a paraplegic dismembered disembowled Daredevil

CAN THE DOG WIN????!?!?!?!?!?



~wickerman~

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Originally posted by armandovalles
I think Ben is highly underrated here. I mean, in the Superman/FF crossover, Ben had a great showing against Cyborg Supes, who is at least at Superman-level, but just so i dont do a repeat thread of everyone saying Ben would be dead in seconds im adding special stipulations to give Ben more of a chance. First, Superman cannot use his eye beams, speed blitz, or Ice Breath/Super Breath. Second, Superman has one hand tied behind his back by an 1rst-grade-adamantium Coil. Third, Superman cannot give Ben a ring out, such as punching or throwing him too far away from the fight to continue, and there is no using the Sun either to throw/hit Ben into. Fourth, Superman gives Ben 2 free shots to start off the fight, and Ben can use whatever he wants for those fights, such as dropping large things on him, hitting him with objects, etc. And finally, Ben gets 3 hours of prep time help with Reed while Superman gets a half-hour of prep time help with Bruce.

So can Ben pull it off?

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Originally posted by jplatinum
Superman still wins.

You messed up when you started this thread.

First you put him up against superman.

The power difference is still way too great even with all the stipulations you put on the fight.

Secondly, you gave superman a 30 minute prep with batman, hell you should have just told ben to tie himself to a tree and let superman have free shots at him.


Superman wins too, easily.