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Rage.Of.Olympus
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A tad bit too specific to be written off as hyperbole. Especially since Slott has been using him as a Flash stand in Mighty Avengers.


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The editor of the comic himself confirmed that the wording was off, and the intent of the author wasn't for him to be faster than radio waves, but too fast for the other to contact him using those means.


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A bit too specific for hyperbole. I wouldn't right it off, especially since Slott has been using him as a Flash stand in Mighty Avengers.


I know but there is a tendency for writers to say stuff like that on panel and then 'real life' contradicts it. In the case of Quicksilver we have the Mister X incident he travelled from Eastern Europe to America in minutes and it was specifically stated to QS they were in trouble. Also he stated to Hercules that he travelled half way around the world in 92 seconds, the way QS said it he implied that it took alot of effort and it was a big deal.

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The editor of the comic himself confirmed that the wording was off, and the intent of the author wasn't for him to be faster than radio waves, but too fast for the other to contact him using those means.


Since its your job to prove that DC characters are superior to Marvel I would like to see some proof.


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I know but there is a tendency for writers to say stuff like that on panel and then 'real life' contradicts it. In the case of Quicksilver we have the Mister X incident he travelled from Eastern Europe to America in minutes and it was specifically stated to QS they were in trouble. Also he stated to Hercules that he travelled half way around the world in 92 seconds, the way QS said it he implied that it took alot of effort and it was a big deal.


What do you mean? He said Quicksilver was running faster than radio waves. Are you saying that the radio waves were slower than in real life? I'm not going to assume that without some proof. Quicksilver got a huge off panel upgrade. I'm not going to place any limitations on his speed until I see them.

The Thunderbolts fight with Mister X? Eh, that doesn't in itself disprove him being able to go faster.

Now the second example would be more in line with what you're going for. Do you have a scan? Been a while.

Quicksilver needs another feat similar to that radio wave one and he'll be cemented as a light speedster.

Edit: Never mind, I found the Hercules scan on here:
http://img687.imageshack.us/f/assau...wolympus12.jpg/

Where is the implication that it took a lot of effort? He definitely made it seem like something worth noting, but the Flash has shit in the same vein like that. Hardly sets a limitation for the character.


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Since its your job to prove that DC characters are superior to Marvel I would like to see some proof.
Since you asked so nicely, no.


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The editor of the comic himself confirmed that the wording was off, and the intent of the author wasn't for him to be faster than radio waves, but too fast for the other to contact him using those means.


He edited Mighty Avengers? Really?

Is the same shit as you posted on herochat? IIRC, he said something stupid like Quicksilver didn't have to be running faster than radio waves to be out of radio contact. The comic outright said he was running faster than radio waves. No two ways about it.

He really has become a shitty editor. F*cked up with Thanos: The End.


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Since you asked so nicely, no.


Well you tend to be so polite to other posters, so y'know...

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He edited Mighty Avengers? Really?

Is the same shit as you posted on herochat? IIRC, he said something stupid like Quicksilver didn't have to be running faster than radio waves to be out of radio contact. The comic outright said he was running faster than radio waves. No two ways about it.



Uh if he said that, that implies it wasn't literially faster than radiowaves.


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Uh if he said that, that implies it wasn't literially faster than radiowaves.


No, what it implies is that Breevort needs to re-read the scene.

The way he phrases it suggests that he thinks Quicksilver moving faster than radio waves is solely based on the team failing to contact him by radio. However it was outright said that he was moving faster than radio waves.


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No, what it implies is that Breevort needs to re-read the scene.

The way he phrases it suggests that he thinks Quicksilver moving faster than radio waves is solely based on the team failing to contact him by radio. What actually happened in the comic was that it outright said that he was moving faster than radio waves.


Whatever, got the actual quote?

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What do you mean? He said Quicksilver was running faster than radio waves. Are you saying that the radio waves were slower than in real life? I'm not going to assume that without some proof. Quicksilver got a huge off panel upgrade. I'm not going to place any limitations on his speed until I see them.

The Thunderbolts fight with Mister X? Eh, that doesn't in itself disprove him being able to go faster.

Now the second example would be more in line with what you're going for. Do you have a scan? Been a while.

Quicksilver needs another feat similar to that radio wave one and he'll be cemented as a light speedster.

Edit: Never mind, I found the Hercules scan on here:
http://img687.imageshack.us/f/assau...wolympus12.jpg/

Where is the implication that it took a lot of effort? He made it seem like it was something worth noting but that's it.


Oh for gods sake, he doesn't have any other speed feats comparable so it needs to be taken with a pinch of salt. Not arguing he was exhanusted or it was his top speed but it did take effort worth noting otherwise he wouldn't have mentioned it. The point is it contradicts the idea that he can run FTL. Is that alright?


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Whatever, got the actual quote?


Get it from Philo. He posted it originally. Probably asked him the question in the first place.

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Oh for gods sake, he doesn't have any other speed feats comparable so it needs to be taken with a pinch of salt. Not arguing he was exhanusted or it was his top speed but it did take effort worth noting otherwise he wouldn't have mentioned it. Is that alright?


I get that it should be criticized but like I said, he got a big upgrade off panel. If nothing else, it's a high end feat. One more, and his definitely light speed.

I can accept it took some effort but unfortunately it doesn't in itself disprove the radio wave feat like I thought it did. Might as well take Flash down a peg.

Wasn't that scene written by Pak? Worst case scenario, Slott writes him faster than other writers.


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Get it from Philo. He posted it originally. Probably asked him the question in the first place.


I did but I didn't ask him nicely enough.


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I get that it should be criticized but like I said, he got a big upgrade off panel. If nothing else, it's a high end feat. One more, and his definitely light speed.


Ok.


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I get that it should be criticized but like I said, he got a big upgrade off panel. If nothing else, it's a high end feat. One more, and his definitely light speed.
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just out of curiosity, do you want QS to be faster than Light so you can use that scuffle he had with thor , where thor states he defeated fleeter foes?

QS only has one ftl feat ,i don't think he can go that fast imho, he may be FTL in future but in that thor fight he wasn't stick out tongue


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I did but I didn't ask him nicely enough.


Shame. Maybe if you put out he'll post it.


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just out of curiosity, do you want QS to be faster than Light so you can use that scuffle he had with thor , where thor states he defeated fleeter foes?

QS only has one ftl feat ,i don't think he can go that fast imho, he may be FTL in future but in that thor fight he wasn't stick out tongue




Not everything I do revolves around Thor. I was arguing in favor of the radio wave feat before the scuffle with Thor.

If you say so. Either way, Thor still comes off looking good so that's a side perk.

Edit: Now that I think about it, the radio wave feat might have come after the fight with Thor. Not sure. Whatever, it was like a year ago.


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Not everything I do revolves around Thor. I was arguing in favor of the radio wave feat before the scuffle with Thor.

If you say so. Either way, Thor still comes off looking good so that's a side perk.


haha, ok cool


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Found the quote from herochat.

http://herochat.com/forum/index.php...html#msg3649758

Quicksilver has been has been said to be travelling faster than radiowaves in the newest issue of Mighty Avengers. That's faster than light. Any insane increase in power I've missed?

I think you're interpreting that line in a very odd and inaccurate way. Quicksilver needn't be moving faster than radio waves for somebody not to be able to contact him by radio.


1. Didn't Slott write that scene? If so what Breevort said don't mean anything.

2. Why is Breevort talking about radio contact? I can't see anything there that suggests they were trying to contact him by radio. He seems to be making assumptions.

3. Did Slott write the fight between X and Quicksilver? Edit: no he didn't.

Seems to me you could assume that Quick could have FTL speed under Slott. That other feat were he travels from India to Tibet suggests that (Mighty Avengers written by Slott I assume), eventhough I don't think Slott did any math I'm pretty sure his intention was that it was a Flash level feat.


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That's the one. Told you his comment was stupid.


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I added some more comments.


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I'll never understand why Quicksilver is so underused.


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I'm New

And I really love quicksilver, more than flash
I don't know if you guys still active on this forum or not, but I just wanna share wit you guys about QS in this forum
, i know and we know it flash more fast than a Quicksilver, but ,i don't know i just get more interested with a Quicksilver than flash

did you guys know ,Quicksilver now will be in Avengers 2 and X-Men DOFP movie
and he's now in All new X-factor and I really love that comics!!
can't wait to see him in 2 different movie haha

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