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Yeah and Galactus was beat by Alpha Flight which is more embarrasing. IMO Exitar is as far above the other Celestials as the smaller one's are above Odin Zeus and Vishnu I believe The Smaller Celestials are about equal to Galactus because one thing the genuine suprise when HOTU Thanos destroyes them he says something like even the Might Celestials were defeated. Exitar is infact an Ingima he hardly ever shown he wasn't there in the Secert Wars he wasn't there during the Infinity Gauntlet he even wasn't there when the Celestials went to earth and was annoyed yes I said annoyed because thats best way to put it by the Earth gods.
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you keep making the same mistake -- you use regular galactus (or in the case of the af battle you mention, incapacitated g -- g couldn't even use his power in that fight, he had to fight them (AND the avengers) h2h using just his strength as a 'giant'!) in all your comparisons.
full g has never been seen. you or i don't KNOW what he's capable of, but given what little we DO know he may achieve eternity level. eternity>celestials (he created them) g has also shown to be able to devour a high powered celestial (equivalent most likely to arishem, and perhaps greater than arishem).
based on those 2 pieces of info (one hypothesized, the other fact) g would win the fight.
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You also have no proof that we haven't seen is full potential and on that note we have not seen Exitars ether.
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Here something for you to read
DREAMING CELESTIAL
First Appearance: Eternals #18
History: The Dreaming Celestial, who is also known as the Great Renegade, is a member of the enigmatic, virtually all-powerful extraterrestrial race known as the Celestials, who have conducted genetic experimentation with the dominant races of many planets, including Earth. The Dreaming Celestial has an actual name (such as other known Celestials, like Arishem the Judge, have), but it has been "obliterated" from any known records. The Dreaming Celestial was a member of the Second Host of Celestials, which visited Earth at the time of the Great Cataclysm, which they brought about. According to one account, the Dreaming Celestial is the "greatest" of the Celestials. Possibly the Dreaming Celestial is the most powerful individual member of the Second Host, although it seems highly unlikely that his power exceeds that of such Celestials as Exitar, who dwarfs even Arishem in size and might. The priesthood of Earth's Deviants, a genetic offshoot of humanity, allege that it was the Dreaming Celestial alone who was responsible for the creation of their race, and it was for this reason that the rest of the Second Host punished the Great Renegade. In fact, Earth's Deviants were created by the Celestial Ziran the Tester, and the Celestials have created other races of Deviants (such as the Skrulls) on other worlds. Hence, the nature of the Dreaming Celestials' crime remains a mystery. It is definitely known, however, that at the time of the Second Host's visitation to Earth, the rest of the Second Host discovered that the Great Renegade had committed a grievous crime "against life itself." The Renegade is said to have rebelled against the rest of the Celestials. The rest of the Second Host warred against the Renegade, and finally defeated him in a great battle in outer space. The Renegade, or perhaps only his armor, was once golden in color; after his fall its color became black. The rest of the Second Host is said to have been unable to destroy the Renegade. Hence, they removed from him energy of an unknown nature, which appears to have been a key part of his life essence, and sealed it within a vial that could only be opened with a unique form of key. The vial was placed within the hidden Pyramid of the winds in Earth's Arctic regions, and the departing Second Host took the key with them when they left Earth. The Renegade himself was imprisoned beneath the Diablo Mountains of California, placed into an endless dreaming sleep. After the Fourth Host of the Celestials arrived on Earth in recent years, Lord Ghaur, head of the Deviant priesthood, arranged for Deviant underlings of his to invade the Celestials' mothership and make a duplicate of the key. Ghaur then recovered the vial from the Pyramid of the Winds. He unlocked the vial with the key and absorbed the energy within it, thereby giving himself the size and power of a Celestial. In this form Ghaur intended to lead a Deviant attack on the rest of the Celestials. however, soon, to Ghaur's horror, he fell under the mental control of the Dreaming Celestial, who forced Ghaur to fly to the Diablo Mountains and begin digging to release him from his tomb. Members of the Eternals, another offshoot of humanity created by the Celestials, joined forces with members of the team of adventurers called the Avengers, to form a collective being with tremendous psionic powers known as the Uni-Mind. The Uni-Mind seperated Ghaur's consciousness from his body, Ghaur's consciousness drifted helplessly into outer space. As for his body, the Eternals and Avengers caused it to release the Celestial energies within it, which were again sealed within the vial. The body itself shrank into seeming nothingness before it could succeed in freeing the Dreaming Celestial. Other Celestials had become aware of the Renegade's attempts to free himself, and apparently would have intervened had he succeeded. Ghaur recently allied himself with the Elder God Set and returned to Earth in a new physical form. As for the Dreaming Celestial, he remains imprisoned, but seeking a means for his release. It is known that a "time bubble" surrounds Earth between seventeen and thirty-seven years in the future, making time travel to those years almost entirely impossible. it is believed by the Council of Kangs, the conquerors of many different realities, that during that period there exists a weapon that was created by the Dreaming Celestial and that is powerful enough to wreak havoc throughout all existing universes. As yet, no more has been revealed about this weapon.
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bios don't mean much. you keep posting them. and if you read my post, i said you or i don't know. there's not even reason to believe exitar is the most powerful celetial. toaa is said to have that distinction. and he's not as powerful as eternity either.
anyway, you are of course entitled to your opinion. however, based on what we know i don't think your opinion will find much support.
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like i said if Big G ate the celestial home world in an alternate universe doesnt that mean Exitar was one of them and if he can eat the universe i think the celestials are part of that too.
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Here is a alternate version of Galactus does he look as power as Galactus. Also did Thanos make a clone of Galactus that was like 2 times more powerful then Galactus how was that possible.
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pics
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Lets just agree to disagree
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cool. but once agin your pics are irrelevent because that is NOT a full power g. g has had some VERY weak showings (maybe biggest jobber outside darkseid) but we're not using that g in this debate. we're using a full power g, and no one can say with certainty what that is or what his power level is.
only that it seems like it may be approaching or equal to eternity.
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Fine but just like I said you can not prove that Full Powered Galactus is any more powerful then Exitar plus I read that Odin drew back Galactus something that Odin Zeus The Uni-Mind and Vishnu could not do to a smaller Celestial more or less Exitar
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full powered galactus curbstomps exitar
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golem370
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Thats your opinion
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ORIGIN THEORIES
Just what exactly ARE the Celestials? Does anyone know? Can we even comprehend what they are? Well, there are some interesting theories:
The Cognitorum of Velsarius Six believes the Celestials come from outside our multiverse.
According to the Philosopix Ultimus of the Uch'tul hegemony, the Celestials are stars that have reached the end of their cycles, and born from black holes.
The Overscholars of the Winding Mist think the Celestials may each be the survivors of a previous universe, and that when Galactus has served his purpose, he will become a Celestial in the next universe.
The Galaxy M31 once thought the Celestials are the physical manifestation of the evolutionary process, and are simply illusions.
But perhaps the most sound theory is the one held by Kubik & Kosmos, two former Cosmic Cubes. They believe that the Celestials are the creation of Eternity, and are sent forth by him to gather knowledge.
Which of these theories is correct? Well, none of them are proven. According to Kubik, we must each make our own decision about what the Celestials are. And that's the best answer there is.
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All that "full powered Galactus" blah blah...
I don't know who is more powerful, Exitar or Galactus, but I'm leaning towards Exitar. Galactus has been defeated/humiliated/driven off by far less powerful beings/teams.
Oh yeah, right, he wasn't at full power back then lol.
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being defeated by those teams shouldnt make Galactus lose if every all powerful being won against the MU no one would be alive thats why the heros servived a battle with pre reconned beyonder i mean give me a break anyway at full power Galactus can eat the universe and he can eat the celestials and i already stated else were why.
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