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Yoda and Mace run the gauntlet
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He goes down at Kun


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Argument? Anything? Why don't you show us how those two would get past NJO Luke.


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They go down at Sion because they cant kill him. If you assume he can be killed(uncertain), then they go down at DE Sidious no question.

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Very unlikely both Sion and DE Sidious alone can contend with Yoda and Mace. They die at NJO Luke.


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Very unlikely both Sion and DE Sidious alone can contend with Yoda and Mace. They die at NJO Luke.


If you assume Sion can be killed(by decapitation or something) then they get past Sion. They dont get past DE Sidious regardless, he is in a different tier.

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If you assume Sion can be killed(by decapitation or something) then they get past Sion. They dont get past DE Sidious regardless, he is in a different tier.



Nice logic, but unfortunately opinion/speculation are logical fallacies, provide proof. DE Sidious individually is more powerful than both of them, but he won't be able to take them on at the same time.. And don't bring in the idea of force storm because he won't have time to create it.


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Nice logic, but unfortunately opinion/speculation are logical fallacies, provide proof. DE Sidious individually is more powerful than both of them, but he won't be able to take them on at the same time.. And don't bring in the idea of force storm because he won't have time to create it.



Lol...


It is your opinion/speculation that Yoda and Mace would win. I will however back up my claim:


-You even admit DE Sidious could take them both individually, and SW history reflects a stronger opponent usually defeats multiple weaker opponents.

-DE Sidious has powers Yoda and Mace have never experienced before, they will be caught off guard from the very beginning.

-If Sidious can get off his force storm, its over...how do you know Sidious wouldnt be able to hold out long enough? I find it unlikely, considering DE Sidious is more powerful than both of them individually, that Yoda or Mace would be able to break Sidious' defense in time.

-And if all else fails, Sidious transports them both straight into the sun scoring an instapwn.

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Lol...


It is your opinion/speculation that Yoda and Mace would win. I will however back up my claim:


-You even admit DE Sidious could take them both individually, and SW history reflects a stronger opponent usually defeats multiple weaker opponents.

-DE Sidious has powers Yoda and Mace have never experienced before, they will be caught off guard from the very beginning.

-If Sidious can get off his force storm, its over...how do you know Sidious wouldnt be able to hold out long enough? I find it unlikely, considering DE Sidious is more powerful than both of them individually, that Yoda or Mace would be able to break Sidious' defense in time.

-And if all else fails, Sidious transports them both straight into the sun scoring an instapwn.


history reflects? Oh I see, because Dooku defeated Anakin and Obiwan, he sets the standard right? Lol.. What powers does DE Sidious have besides force storm, that Yoda and Mace haven't seen before? Sidious CANT get off his force storm, it's not an instant force attack. He'll get sliced before anything happens...Sorry, that's more realistic than your "logic".


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history reflects? Oh I see, because Dooku defeated Anakin and Obiwan, he sets the standard right? Lol.. What powers does DE Sidious have besides force storm, that Yoda and Mace haven't seen before? Sidious CANT get off his force storm, it's not an instant force attack. He'll get sliced before anything happens...Sorry, that's more realistic than your "logic".


1. Its basic logic, the stronger opponent should defeat multiple weaker opponents unless the scales are really unbalanced.


2. All he needs is force storm, along with his wormhole technique if he needs it, to own them both. Also DE Sidious can move REALLY fast, in his battle with Luke he was just a blur of dark energy...almost impossible to see without the aid of the force.


3. You seriously claim all I have is speculation, when your argument is... *he gets sliced before anything happens*. Theres little chance Mace and Yoda are going to break Sidious' defense in time to stop his force storm. And once again...if all else fails he just instapwns them with wormhole.

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1. Its basic logic, the stronger opponent should defeat multiple weaker opponents unless the scales are really unbalanced.


2. All he needs is force storm, along with his wormhole technique if he needs it, to own them both. Also DE Sidious can move REALLY fast, in his battle with Luke he was just a blur of dark energy...almost impossible to see without the aid of the force.


3. You seriously claim all I have is speculation, when your argument is... *he gets sliced before anything happens*. Theres little chance Mace and Yoda are going to break Sidious' defense in time to stop his force storm. And once again...if all else fails he just instapwns them with wormhole.


1. Who's logic, your logic or real logic?
2. yes, he can move really fast, but he's not going to be conjuring up a force storm while he's moving really fast now is he?
3. I have basis for my argument, in the fact that Yoda and Mace were #1 and #2 and nothing suggests that Sidious can hold them both off.


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1. Who's logic, your logic or real logic?
2. yes, he can move really fast, but he's not going to be conjuring up a force storm while he's moving really fast now is he?
3. I have basis for my argument, in the fact that Yoda and Mace were #1 and #2 and nothing suggests that Sidious can hold them both off.



Again you evade my main points, and waste my time. Come back when you learn how to debate. Im done.

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Again you evade my main points, and waste my time. Come back when you learn how to debate. Im done.



Translation: I lost the argument, I have no debating skills, and I have no point, but I will unleash my projection on somebody else to sleep better at night.


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It took Sidious seconds to summon a galactic scale Force Storm.

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Translation: I lost the argument, I have no debating skills, and I have no point, but I will unleash my projection on somebody else to sleep better at night.


How could I of lost the argument, when you never put up a decent resistence in the first place? Ill be here when you think you can actually support your side of the debate.

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And voila, a few moments later (Unless Luke was just standing there forever).

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I did prove my side big boy, you just chose to ignore it. But I'll repeat it for the simple minded.. DE Sidious won't be able to conjure up a force storm when he has two of the best saber users hacking at him, nor is he going to be able to conjure one up if he's busy dodging the sabers with his 'lightning speed'. That's called a mastery of multi tasking which very few people have...


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Well, apparently he managed to do it while fighting Luke. So at least we know he can do it while fighting.

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I did prove my side big boy, you just chose to ignore it. But I'll repeat it for the simple minded.. DE Sidious won't be able to conjure up a force storm when he has two of the best saber users hacking at him, nor is he going to be able to conjure one up if he's busy dodging the sabers with his 'lightning speed'. That's called a mastery of multi tasking which very few people have...


DE Sidious can summon the force storm while fighting easily, hes already proved he could do it in his battle with Luke. Whoops there goes the basis of your argument.

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I did prove my side big boy, you just chose to ignore it. But I'll repeat it for the simple minded.. DE Sidious won't be able to conjure up a force storm when he has two of the best saber users hacking at him, nor is he going to be able to conjure one up if he's busy dodging the sabers with his 'lightning speed'. That's called a mastery of multi tasking which very few people have...

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Ok but with GV's infallible logic, 1 of DE Luke= Yoda and Mace.. Also what's he going to do whle they're hacking at him, create a force storm and kill everybody including himself? That's assuming he creates one at all.


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