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Originally posted by spetznaz
Here are my four characters:

1) Dr Midnite
2) Plastic Man
3) Killer Frost
4) Sebastian Shaw

The problem I am facing is:

a) Find where the Invisible Woman (from hereon IW) is, since after all she can turn invisible.
b) Find a way of negating her forcefields and taking her out of the fight.
c) Deal with Reed
d) Deal with a super-brawler like the Thing.
e) Deal with a heat-generator at the level of the the Torch.

Here is my plan:

i) Dr Midnite has various lenses that allow him to see even though his vision is nigh-absent. One of those lenses is an 'ultra-sonic' lens, and thus IW is not longer invisible. When she goes invisible she is bending light around and having it pass through her, but she is still SOLID. Ultra-sonics are basically sonar, so she will show up like a Christmas tree at a Buddhist temple to Dr Midnite.

ii) At which point Plastic Man goes to work, wrapping himself all around IW (who will obviously have her protective bubble up). Now, even if she extends it to its maximum PM will just extend with it, and if she contracts it he will simply contract with it. I wonder how long she can survive without air in that lil' bubble of hers (in my opinion sooner or later she will die just like Unus the untouchable died, or a more recent example how Magneto defeated Cannoball by encircling him in metal and waiting until he was too exhausted to 'blast').

iii) Here comes Johnny boy, obviously not too excited at what is happening. There steps Killer Frost, who has the ability to absorb external heat sourcs and turn them into supreme cold. Guess what Johnny boy is .....a very hot external heat source. He powers up Killer Frost by losing his flames.

iv) Now, what is Killer Frost to do with all that cold surging through her (courtesy of our dear, departed, friend Johnny)? Well, there is Reed trying to snake his way into the fight. In Tower of Babel Plastic Man was frozen and shattered, and if that could work against a shaper like PM imagine what it could do to someone like Reed! Suffice to say Reed becomes an elongated popsicle.

v) Ol' Ben is obviously not laughing by now. He is annoyed as heck and thinks it is clobbering time. At which point Sebastian Shaw decides to accomodate him, and stands in front of the Thing. Ben clobbers Sebastian, only to realize that his blows have no effect. In fact the more he hits Seb the stronger Seb gets. Unknown to Grimm, Sebastian Shaw is getting stronger, and not only that but suffering no damage.

At this point Seb could just stand there and receive Ben's punches, or he could trade punches with Ben, or he could just have Killer Frost (who has long finished dealing with Johnny and Richard) to come and 'cool off' Ben, or Dr Midnite could throw one of his blackout bombs at Ben and make him not see.
A whole host of options at this point.

Anyways, the fight is over, and my team heads over to my headoffice to collect a fat check for a job well done. I might even throw in a bonus if they do it in under 10 minutes.

Fin.

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Originally posted by TheKahn
I think Plastic Man is slightly above the durability/killability cap

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Originally posted by spetznaz
Ok ...substitute PM for Elongated Man.
Same effect, and he is able to stretch for sufficient distances to accomodate IW (even though he is not able to stretch for miles like PM he should be able to encompass anything IW can offer).
Also his durability is not at the level of PM, thus that takes care of that caveat.

IF that is still not sufficient then substitute EM/PM for Dr Light. He has powerful light-based weaponry that should be able to go through IW's shield.
But I'm certain someone will say that the lasers will also go through her and not harm her (or for that matter that they may not even pass through her forcefield, which is a good point), so he has another option.
He can create very strong forcefields, thus he will simply create a forcefield around HER forcefield.
Either way she is no longer a viable participant in this fight.

Anyways, if PM is not going to work put it EM.
If EM is not going to work put in the good doctor.

IW is out of the fight, and the rest of the fight progresses as written. Either way the F4 are going down, and my team gets a bonus if they go down in less than 10 min.

(Evil laugh).

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Originally posted by inamilist
blackheath + asthma = for me

seriously IW is a huge advantage for the FF, most of the others I can think of ways to counteract them, hell, Iron Man should give any other member of the FF a run for their money, hell, even man-thing could arguably stalemate reed and thing

thats why i likes them pollen spores, so unorthodoxed and nobody has a proper defense against them....

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Originally posted by spetznaz
Is the character on your sig Cthulthu?

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Originally posted by inamilist
nope, that is man-thing

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Originally posted by spetznaz

Thanks for the correction.

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Originally posted by Thunderstrike
^ You put Glom in there just so he could eat things, didn't you?

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Originally posted by TheKahn
My team would consist of:

Super-Skrull
Crystal
Gorgon (Wolverine enemy)
a blank 616 Mimic

They would be able to match the FF in every area (as the Super-Skrull and Mimic would each have the power of all of the FF). They also have two powerful elementals (Crystal and Mimic) and have an easy one shot kill (Gorgon and Mimic).