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........if even Thanos can't beat up Juggs, I doubt Superman is going to. Classic Juggernaut is physically invulnerable. THIS FACT WILL NEVER BE UP FOR DISCUSSION AND CANNOT BE CONTESTED. Not even Thor's godblast stopped Juggs.

It's amazing how many people fail to realize that unstoppable actually means unstoppable big grin

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........if even Thanos can't beat up Juggs, I doubt Superman is going to. Classic Juggernaut is physically invulnerable. THIS FACT WILL NEVER BE UP FOR DISCUSSION AND CANNOT BE CONTESTED. Not even Thor's godblast stopped Juggs.

ah, I see where the Priest part of your nick fits in smile

sorry, that was too tempting an opportunity.

yet again, these are only blummin' comic book characters...

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It's amazing how many people fail to realize that unstoppable actually means unstoppable

except when he's stopped, knocked back, knocked off the continent and umm generally manhandled?
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except when he's stopped, knocked back, knocked off the continent and umm generally manhandled?

I don't recall seeing anyone permanently stopping the Juggernaut.

Apr 30th, 2007 01:26 AM

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I don't recall seeing anyone permanently stopping the Juggernaut.

no one's permanently stopped Batman either.
why? because it's an on-going comic/character with a fanbase.
why kill it?

to "permanently stop" anyone you'd basically have to kill them. which , in juggernaut's case, is somewhat stupid given the appeal of the character (as is evidenced here often).

oh and Onslaught tossed him a good distance too, no?

Apr 30th, 2007 01:32 AM

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Don't bring up Onslaught. That was ungodly PIS.

2nd, you can't hurt juggernaut with physical means. Learn what that means.

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Don't bring up Onslaught. That was ungodly PIS. 2nd, you can't hurt juggernaut with physical means. Learn what that means.

rofl...

can Galactus be physically hurt?
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Pure strength? I don't think that works on an abstract. Augmented with something like PC? yep.

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but Galactus has physical form and to be hurt is physical no?
(and for the purposes of this discussion, we're not talking about Galactus' inner turmoil or his struggle as an up and comming actor in Hollywood, we're talking pain that transmits down whatever passes for his nervous system)

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but Galactus has physical form and to be hurt is physical no?
(and for the purposes of this discussion, we're not talking about Galactus' inner turmoil or his struggle as an up and comming actor in Hollywood, we're talking pain that transmits down whatever passes for his nervous system)

A mortal's mind isn't capable of comprehending what Galactus looks like or somethin' We only have an idea of what he looks like through humanoid eyes.

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10 out of 10 for the villains unless supes get to have PIS

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10 out of 10 for the villains unless supes get to have PIS

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A mortal's mind isn't capable of comprehending what Galactus looks like or somethin' We only have an idea of what he looks like through humanoid eyes.

so what was Thanos blasting across space?

I get that we can't conceive of the totality of the dimension of these beings, but they are material beings right?

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Don't bring up Onslaught. That was ungodly PIS. 2nd, you can't hurt juggernaut with physical means. Learn what that means.

it's possible that onslaught hit him with more power then he's ever had to experienced before. Like as in more powerful then cytterock which would make onslaught on skyfather level which is possible since he never really showed any of his limits since every time he appeared to be getting beat or weakening was a ploy so he could get his shell broken. still I will admit it's highly highly unlikely.

my point is that juggs could get hurt by force more powerful then cytorakk but supes does not posses that kind of power. Not even the most rabit supes fanboy I would hope would make that kind of statement.

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what ever all three together are beyond supes. any non fanboy would see that

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so what was Thanos blasting across space?

I get that we can't conceive of the totality of the dimension of these beings, but they are material beings right?

That's what didn't make sense. Thanos was more powerful than Galactus, shouldn't he perceive him differently?

Anyways, I think it's quite possible to physically hurt Galactus. Isn't that was the darkness in between was doing?

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it's possible that onslaught hit him with more power then he's ever had to experienced before. Like as in more powerful then cytterock which would make onslaught on skyfather level which is possible since he never really showed any of his limits since every time he appeared to be getting beat or weakening was a ploy so he could get his shell broken. still I will admit it's highly highly unlikely.

my point is that juggs could get hurt by force more powerful then cytorakk but supes does not posses that kind of power. Not even the most rabit supes fanboy I would hope would make that kind of statement.

the Onslaught showings were PIS. And nobody, (except maybe Carver or Janus) is saying Supes can hurt him. But a throw to the sun is still a win.

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what ever all three together are beyond supes. any non fanboy would see that

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the Onslaught showings were PIS. And nobody, (except maybe Carver or Janus) is saying Supes can hurt him. But a throw to the sun is still a win.

Wouldn't a reality warper just turn out the sun?

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the Onslaught showings were PIS. And nobody, (except maybe Carver or Janus) is saying Supes can hurt him. But a throw to the sun is still a win.

how were they PIS virtually nothing is know of the limits of the character. you can't cry PIS when you don't see the limit. I will agree you can't speculate that they can beat galactus because we don't know the limits but still to say it's PIS is not being fair.

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