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WE agreed on nothing. I mean it. Stop posting for awhile and STFU. Or I'll do something completely crazy, like argue AGAINST Apocalypse. I'd ban you myself if I had the power.
Edit: Really? Can I get scans? Also, classic or current Apoc?
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He may absorb Thor's lightning blast, but to what extent? When battling Ego it was said that Thor can increase the effectiveness of his lighting 1000 fold, making it far hotter than the heat produced at the core of the sun. Also, Thor could summon Omni-directional lighting and winds on a planetary scale, keeping Apoc dead or severely damaged.
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As most know, Thor is extremely resistant to TP. He's fought of telepathic assaults that even put Moondragon down.
Why would Thor foolishly throw his hammer at Apoc in a bloodlusted battle, where each character is fighting to the best of their abilities? He could just as easily use an anti gravity attack, leaving Apoc helpless. No amount of shape shifting is gonna help that.
Nice trick. Although it would be useless to use in a situation such as this, where your opponent has about a million others options other than making this battle a physical confrontation.
When has Apoc absorbed the life force of an opponent on Thor's lv? In fact, when has Apoc absorbed someones life force period?
It's a one panel flash back in an Uncanny issue. One of Apoc's fallowers is talking about his defeats and we are treated to a one panel flash back of Apoc floating around helplessly in space with Thor flying around him.
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The sun's heat didn't affect Atum, but Thor's lighting (mixed with some of the sun's powers) did.
Oh ya, Atum would bend Apoc over (along with most, if not all, of Marvel Earth), and... all the matter manipulation in the world isn't going to help the pain of his colon.
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That completely contradicts things like Apoc stalemating the HE and beating Ikaris and maneuvering easily in space. I'd say it's more likely current Apoc than Classic. Apocalypse is certainly capable of absorbing lifeforce. It's within his powerset.
Edit: Thor knew he couldn't possibly beat Atum in that fight. He was trying to piss him off. Of course Atum would rape Apoc as well. Demogorge beats down Elder Gods like Thanos beats down Surfer.
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It was. Arishem was also there, and Exitar towered over him.
I guess I should also say that he had the belt of Strength... (please log in to view the image)
You shouldn't be, doing so places you on the losing end of this debate.
Being a team wrecker somehow means your some uber powerful character? Guess that makes Hulk, and Juggernaut two of the most powerful characters in the MU.
Thor can shrink people, increasing his size wont help in this battle.
Which means nothing. Thor's has great showings against Galactus, Stranger, Zeus, Ego, etc. However the above fights don't give him automatic wins against other characters in his league.
Thor's done better than a choke hold. He's actually physically killed Hulk while at the same time battling other hero's.
Wouldn't grabbing celestial tech be considered as outside help?
What exactly is Apocolypse going to do to hurt Thor?
I mean the guy gets owned by the xmen,,,
Is it just me or does it seem like the xmen shouldn't be an a-list team
I mean they don't don't have the powerhouses (avengers) and they don't have the super-science (Fantastic Four) and they don't even have any magic users (Alpha Flight)
Seriously, the only reason they are still around is because they are polular, the MU could definitly go on without the xmen