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Pre ret con Beyonder and Wolverine vs LT and Spiderman

Which team wins?

Feb 25th, 2007 12:01 AM

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Re: Pre ret con Beyonder and Wolverine vs LT and Spiderman

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Which team wins?

Who is the Living Tribunal? wink

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Re: Re: Pre ret con Beyonder and Wolverine vs LT and Spiderman

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Who is the Living Tribunal?

Waiting for Guy222......

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wolverine solo's this

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Waiting for Guy222......

Did u miss me? I am the Living Tribunal laughing out loud

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Feb 25th, 2007 05:19 AM

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Team one wins, since Pre-Retcon Beyonder is the strongest guy here by far.

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I think Current LT is at or above Preretconned beyonder's powers. There is nothing pre retconned beyonder did that The LT of today cannot.

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True. But at the time, Pre-retcon Beyonder was stated to be over TOAA. So there's a good chance he can win.

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True. But at the time, Pre-retcon Beyonder was stated to be over TOAA. So there's a good chance he can win.

Where on panel was the beyonder stated to be above TOAA. I need to see this. And hasn't the one above all actually done far more than the pre retconned beyonder? He did create the Heart and the omniverse vortex thingy.

Feb 25th, 2007 06:43 AM

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True. But at the time, Pre-retcon Beyonder was stated to be over TOAA.

That was never stated anywhere at any time. Not even once.

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I think Current LT is at or above Preretconned beyonder's powers. There is nothing pre retconned beyonder did that The LT of today cannot.

I agree. In Marvel, The One Above All is above LT. Hence the retcon for the all dummy Beyonder. Hopefully in Ill #3, they get his origin correct. Back in '84-85, they could have made history, they failed horribly.

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Feb 25th, 2007 06:53 AM

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Really? I thought they implied it when Beyonder was talking to a guy who looked like Jack Kirby.

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Feb 25th, 2007 06:54 AM

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Really? I thought they implied it when Beyonder was talking to a guy who looked like Jack Kirby.

True Beyonders created that idiot. In Ill #3, lets see if they get his origin straight. Jack Kirby=Stan Lee. Trickster, u know Kirby brought us the Celestials. I read his email regarding the ommipotent Celestials.

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Feb 25th, 2007 07:06 AM

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Really? I thought they implied it when Beyonder was talking to a guy who looked like Jack Kirby.

Got a scan? It's tough to anylize when I haven't seen the relevant conversation.

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I think Current LT is at or above Preretconned beyonder's powers. There is nothing pre retconned beyonder did that The LT of today cannot.

Well the Living Tribunal cannot be millions of times more powerful than himself, it would end up in a paradox.

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Well the Living Tribunal cannot be millions of times more powerful than himself, it would end up in a paradox.

THe beyonder was said to be more powerful than the marvel multiverse. we know now that there is a marvel omniverse that is >>>>>>>>>the preret beyonder. I'm betting the LT is above even the marvel omniverse. thus making him superior to even the Pre retconned beyonder.

Feb 25th, 2007 09:02 AM

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THe beyonder was said to be more powerful than the marvel multiverse. we know now that there is a marvel omniverse that is >>>>>>>>>the preret beyonder. I'm betting the LT is above even the marvel omniverse. thus making him superior to even the Pre retconned beyonder.

Well techniqally:
Marvel Multi-verse (One Multiverse) + Beyond-realm (Infinite amount of Multiverses)
Beyond realm then = Omniverse now

And he was all that was inside the Multiverse and the Beyond realm.

He even said that even the most powerful being in the Multiverse (Living Tribunal) was like microbes to him.

LT could not touch him then and he wouldent be able to touch him now.

Feb 25th, 2007 09:11 AM

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THe beyonder was said to be more powerful than the marvel multiverse. we know now that there is a marvel omniverse that is >>>>>>>>>the preret beyonder. I'm betting the LT is above even the marvel omniverse. thus making him superior to even the Pre retconned beyonder.

I agree with u

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Feb 25th, 2007 09:21 AM

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Well techniqally:
Marvel Multi-verse (One Multiverse) + Beyond-realm (Infinite amount of Multiverses)
Beyond realm then = Omniverse now

And he was all that was inside the Multiverse and the Beyond realm.

He even said that even the most powerful being in the Multiverse (Living Tribunal) was like microbes to him.

LT could not touch him then and he wouldent be able to touch him now.

LT is above True Beyonders. Beyonders made the cube beings. Beyonder can't beat LT. Back in '84-85, those idiots blew it. Twenty three years later, we all know who is the most powerful being save The One Above All. Its Living Tribunal

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Feb 25th, 2007 09:24 AM

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Beyonder takes this with a gesture.

As for Wolverine/Spiderman, they should be honored that they were mentioned in the same sentence as Beyonder's or LT's sh*t. no expression