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No, his showings are all through time.

We know he has it, because absorbing Pantheons is how he came to power.

They even made mention of him doing it later, in JKFW in the late 90s.

We've seen him create Takion's equal opposite, Stayne, by simply reaching out with a giant starry hand. Assuming you know how powerful Takion is.


Darkseid's feats are awesome.

I know he has good showings that happen. I'm saying wasn't that when his BEST showings happen.


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Didnt the OE not erase Thanos?
If they fight in a neutural universe(no source(dc), or marvel). Who would win. Were DS cant resort to the pis effect.
.... How about no. We aren't taking characters powers away.

Otherwise, we'll say Superman vs Thor, Dr Strange, and Odin, only it's in a nuetral universe where Magic and Odinforce don't exist.


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.... How about no. We aren't taking characters powers away.

Otherwise, we'll say Superman vs Thor, Dr Strange, and Odin, only it's in a nuetral universe where Magic and Odinforce don't exist.


So you would be totally fine with the statement "Darkseid erases Thanos in a second 10/10"? (even though he cant)
This would be totally exceptable to you?


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So you would be totally fine with the statement "Darkseid erases Thanos in a second 10/10"? (even though he cant)
This would be totally exceptable to you?
I never said that,[although it could certainly happen.] but Darkseid has more powers avaiable through the Omega than just erasing people. Taking it away, you're taking away a lot of his character.


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So you would be totally fine with the statement "Darkseid erases Thanos in a second 10/10"? (even though he cant)
This would be totally exceptable to you?


In a merged universe, the OE wouldnt be able to erase Thanos becuz thanos is out side of fate or something like that. kinda like warlock and surfer and stuff.(akin to being imporant to the source) But DS could do to thanos what thanos did to the runner. His OE can pretty much do anything the Time, reality or space gem can do on thier own. DS could Turn thanos into a baby again or something nasty like that. IF it where hand to hand, I dont know. They both can fight hella well. But I think DS has many more life times of exp than thanos.

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In a merged universe, the OE wouldnt be able to erase Thanos becuz thanos is out side of fate or something like that. kinda like warlock and surfer and stuff.(akin to being imporant to the source) But DS could do to thanos what thanos did to the runner. His OE can pretty much do anything the Time, reality or space gem can do on thier own. DS could Turn thanos into a baby again or something nasty like that. IF it where hand to hand, I dont know. They both can fight hella well. But I think DS has many more life times of exp than thanos.
Mostly true, however I don't see how Thanos couldn't be transported to Oblivion[and no this place cannot be escaped by simple teleportation, either.]. Which is how both teleportation through space/time and erasing people happens.


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In a merged universe, the OE wouldnt be able to erase Thanos becuz thanos is out side of fate or something like that. kinda like warlock and surfer and stuff.(akin to being imporant to the source) But DS could do to thanos what thanos did to the runner. His OE can pretty much do anything the Time, reality or space gem can do on thier own. DS could Turn thanos into a baby again or something nasty like that. IF it where hand to hand, I dont know. They both can fight hella well. But I think DS has many more life times of exp than thanos.


I see. So your saying DS basically has the Infinity Gauntlet in his eye Omega beams. Hmmm I get it now. I dont see why he would obses so much over ALE if he has the damn IG at his disposal.
Thanks for clearing that up. roll eyes (sarcastic)


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I see. So your saying DS basically has the Infinity Gauntlet in his eye Omega beams. Hmmm I get it now. I dont see why he would obses so much over ALE if he has the damn IG at his disposal.
Thanks for clearing that up. roll eyes (sarcastic)


You don't have to be sore at the fact that Darkseid is above Thanos. erm He just is...


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I see. So your saying DS basically has the Infinity Gauntlet in his eye Omega beams. Hmmm I get it now. I dont see why he would obses so much over ALE if he has the damn IG at his disposal.
Thanks for clearing that up. roll eyes (sarcastic)
Oddly enough, he can and has done all of that stuff. Just not quite on the universal scale as the gems can in the right hands. -That- is why Darkseid wants the ALE.

[When in actuality, he appears to have the ALE in his latest appearances anyways.]


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Oddly enough, he can and has done all of that stuff. Just not quite on the universal scale as the gems can in the right hands. -That- is why Darkseid wants the ALE.

[When in actuality, he appears to have the ALE in his latest appearances anyways.]


Yea I can see him doing some of those things to weaker beings. But not to the more powerful foes.

Also not realating to anything but the IG>ALE as far as we seen.


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But not to the more powerful foes.


Even though he pwns pantheon's of gods and skyfathers? huh


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I see. So your saying DS basically has the Infinity Gauntlet in his eye Omega beams. Hmmm I get it now. I dont see why he would obses so much over ALE if he has the damn IG at his disposal.
Thanks for clearing that up. roll eyes (sarcastic)


The Omega effect is more than his eye beams. It's part of the source, and he has used it to affect reality, control aspects of time, aspects of space, and more. the IG can affect souls and minds. I dont know if DS can affect souls, but he sure as hell can minds. So He kinda does resemble a mini IG.

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Yea I can see him doing some of those things to weaker beings. But not to the more powerful foes.

Also not realating to anything but the IG>ALE as far as we seen.


This would be including Ares with the GODWAVE trapped in time and space? I guess he doesn't really use it on more powerful foes. YOur right.

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Yea I can see him doing some of those things to weaker beings. But not to the more powerful foes.

Also not realating to anything but the IG>ALE as far as we seen.
Why not? He runs around fighting Pantheon Gods, New Gods, and teams of the highest end heros?
He's created skyfather level beings with a fraction of his power.
He turned Secret, who was a being of phenominal power, training with Spectre and New Gods, to be an aspect of death and void, of sorts, into a human girl.
In one comic, he killed Kalibak, nearly a Superman level baddie, with a touch.

Let's face it, Darkseids really only bad showings are losing to Supes, but hey, Supes beats everyone. And it's taken him shooting himself with his most powerful attack in all of his recorded losses so far.

I've read most every Thanos appearance, ranging from his 12 issue series, Thanos Quest, Infinity Watch, the Infinite Gauntlet series, The End etc... I'm a fan of the guy, but he's not beating Darkseid without prep when Darkseid is fighting to optimum, as per forum rules.


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Why not? He runs around fighting Pantheon Gods, New Gods, and teams of the highest end heros?
He's created skyfather level beings with a fraction of his power.
He turned Secret, who was a being of phenominal power, training with Spectre and New Gods, to be an aspect of death and void, of sorts, into a human girl.
In one comic, he killed Kalibak, nearly a Superman level baddie, with a touch.

Let's face it, Darkseids really only bad showings are losing to Supes, but hey, Supes beats everyone. And it's taken him shooting himself with his most powerful attack in all of his recorded losses so far.

I've read most every Thanos appearance, ranging from his 12 issue series, Thanos Quest, Infinity Watch, the Infinite Gauntlet series, The End etc... I'm a fan of the guy, but he's not beating Darkseid without prep when Darkseid is fighting to optimum, as per forum rules.


I mean the OE will not just erase thanos if they ever fought.
Second I never said who would win this. Just stating certain things because to some it seems they are convinced that DS can just erase thanos in seconds 10/10.
Sorry aint going to happen. No matter how much you dislike the guy. He is on par with darky.


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Why not? He runs around fighting Pantheon Gods, New Gods, and teams of the highest end heros?
He's created skyfather level beings with a fraction of his power.
He turned Secret, who was a being of phenominal power, training with Spectre and New Gods, to be an aspect of death and void, of sorts, into a human girl.
In one comic, he killed Kalibak, nearly a Superman level baddie, with a touch.

Let's face it, Darkseids really only bad showings are losing to Supes, but hey, Supes beats everyone. And it's taken him shooting himself with his most powerful attack in all of his recorded losses so far.

I've read most every Thanos appearance, ranging from his 12 issue series, Thanos Quest, Infinity Watch, the Infinite Gauntlet series, The End etc... I'm a fan of the guy, but he's not beating Darkseid without prep when Darkseid is fighting to optimum, as per forum rules.


Well said. Thanos<<<Darkseid

It's as simple as that.


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I mean the OE will not just erase thanos if they ever fought.
Second I never said who would win this. Just stating certain things because to some it seems they are convinced that DS can just erase thanos in seconds 10/10.
Sorry aint going to happen. No matter how much you dislike the guy. He is on par with darky.


Don't fool urself. He's not on par with DS. THanos is closer in power to Asmodel,Despero, GOG, or someone like that. He's definitely above Thor, Superman and those types. But most of the feats DS has accomplished, Thanos has to use some outside power up to do.

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Don't fool urself. He's not on par with DS. THanos is closer in power to Asmodel,Despero, GOG, or someone like that. He's definitely above Thor, Superman and those types.


some think superman takes the majority over thanos.


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