Orion is probably faster than Wonder Woman. He's no slouch.
Can Orion take a thousand punches from bart? Probably. Bart would just break his hand on Orion's steel hard hand. Plus, Orion doesn't even have to be touched, he simply can throw up and shield and start letting the MB act as a black hole for kinetic energy..
To my knowledge, Orion has never been knocked out by anything physical.
Bart hurt his hand punching Orion?
Speed force Protects him from that.Orion ain't lasting more than a few seconds against Bart who's already rocked SBP(made him run like a *****) and Zoom.
Speed force didn't help Wally from getting hurt-in fact-the speed force has never made any of the speedsters immune to being hurt.
Flash hurt his hand on slade.
Trying for a BFR? Orion can BT out or use the Motherbox to teleport. No biggie.
Plus, Orion is a speeder too. As fast or more likely faster than Wonder Woman.
Cool Orion feat: So, he's on earth dressed in bum's clothes and he gets mugged. They take off his glasses to see that he has no eyes (orion cut his own eyes out). So, while blind and turned the other way, they shot at him and he caught the bullets.
The Speed force protects them from hurting their hands when punching something/someone.Did you say Slade... I'm not touching that.
NO BFR required.Bart can simply rock his Jaw...a few thousand times before Orion can even think to lift a finger.
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Sure Orion is faster than Wonder Women and?Bart's millions of times faster than Orion.Bart has achieved instantaneous speed,and single handedly whooped Zoom's ass.
Instantaneous? That doesn't make sense. That's infinitely faster than light.
He had to have had some room to get momentum (like all flashes do. and all flashes have gotten hurt while in the speed force. many times) and Orion could already be out of reach and blasting.
Anyway, bart could TRY to hit him, but he'd just hit the shield. The harness can push lightspeed itself. If worse comes to worse, blow up the damn world or let motherbox mess with time.
Haven't read any of the books with Bart as Flash eh?Bart is the Living Speed force,it's all his now.
If I wasn't so lazy I would of posted Bart Vs Zoom.
Would his shield stop Bart from phasing through it and Punching Orion's dome piece off?
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actually that is to be seen. Orion usually dumbs down during the JLA so i wouldn't actually use that. He's at least as strong as supes. He's a wayy better fighter. He has healing powers that would allow him to take just about anything thor could throw. He has his astro-harness which can emit blasts easily capable of killing someone in Supes durability range.
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Possible, but that doesn't nullify the fact that since it's an energy attack consistently, it works to the advantage of Thor/BRB to absorb and reflect it back onto Orion times ten.
Surfer beating Orion was pis?
Why?
I agree that it shouldn't have been so easily accomplished, but i wouldn't call bs if either had taken the win.
Orion vs Superman is always a good match.
Superman being more or less powerful is up for debate.
It's akin to Surfer vs Superman.
Orion is much more versatile true, but some would argue Superman is just as potent, even if he is limited in application.
Lol at the mood of your post.
Whatever made you think that Orion would murder elite top tiers in battle?
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The nature of the AF. It's unlike anything in marvel and it's the opposite power of the OE. Only the power of the source has been able to block it outright.
Mjolnir CAN'T absorb the Astro Force. The nature of the power makes that impossible.
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Fury decimates everyone. But.....can he adapt to the AF? Good question.
AF is different than the PC. DC doesn't work the same way as Marvel.
And how many times do I have to say this? THE AF IS DIFFERENT FROM ANYTHING IN MARVEL. THERE IS NO COUNTERPART. Same with the OE.
What makes it different? The Source. Ask LP, Juntai, Draco and others. The nature of things powered by, or from, the Source, makes them undefendable by most things in Marvel. Like the way Magic trumps most things in Marvel. Except worse.
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The fury would adapt to the AF, since that's what it does. If it can adapt to Reality warping on an insane scale, it can adapt to something much less than that.
Secondly, i'm not going to ask Draco anything about the Source, or NG related since that thread he made before where he claimed that all of Darkseids appearances in recent times have been avatars.
That thread was full of falsehoods and just out and out wrong on many levels.
Third, i don't ask others what i already know myself.
The AF is powerful, but it's not the end all of everything.
Maybe it was intended to be, but it's not shown.
And going by your weak stance, Surfer beating Orion wasn't pis, since there's nothing in DC that equates to the PC.
Except the fact that the AF is the power of the source, where as the PC is the energy of the universe.
Analogous, if i say so myself.
And no heat, but did you read much with the NG's, or did you go by the respect forum?
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The Source trumps the power cosmic. That's not up for discussion. DC WORKS DIFFERENTLY THAN MARVEL! I've read some new gods and talked to alot of posters on here. It's you who doesn't get how powerful the new gods are.
Get Long Pig in here, he'll prove me right.
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Apr 23rd, 2007 07:13 AM
Ok.....that is freaking scary.
I'm not touching that.
a few thousand times before Orion can even think to lift a finger.
But.....can he adapt to the AF? Good question. 
