That's the way you feel about him...but lets not start pointing fingers and place the blame on others. We are all responsible for what has happened to this forum. Personal attacks will get us no where.
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I saw this coming from a mile away. Superboy Prime, creates a thread addressing a pressing problem regarding games versus. Yet, it barely gets two pages, and already there's flaming with no sreal solutions being offered by any other members. Honestly, I'm not surprised, because you can't get people to care about an issue as small as this one (Excuse my bluntness). Debating here was supposed to be fun, and at the least resonable. But, the moment discussing video game characters becomes a chore and just stops being fun no one will really bother. There's nothing too serious about these debates for anyone to endure page after page of debate because people won't adhere to an opinion. I'm not saying that we should never ever flame. That would be wishful thinking, but at least try to keep your arguments logical.
Fanboys are what killed games versus and until shitty debating/ bad attitudes, and rabbid fan wanking disappears we will always have this problem.
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There are a couple of members actually interested in this. No one said this is going to be easy, and I'll certainly give it my best until I run out of energy. It's ok to disagree for the most part. We're all human after all and we have different opinions. That said I will not tolerate flame wars/trolling on this thread and I will report without mercy.
Raz should try and help out too... If he can. We need to maintain a stable place here. We should make this forum fun again, not a chore, like what Sandai said, we need to keep smart, fun, and safe debates.
Personally, I'm very big on canon. So if it was up to me I'd say canon only.
However, I'm not going to make that a rule. Rather, it will be up to the creator of the match as to what feats are or are not allowed. I will not even restrict this to game feats only - if a character appears in a movie (ie Cloud's Advent Children version), then that is allowable, so long as it is still a character that originated in a video game.
I am certainly interested in what you guys want to do to change things around here and I'll help put into effect changes as much as I can. Most of the changes are simply down to the posters in here - such as trying to diversify the matchups that are created, but everything else I'll do all I can to facilitate. I'm even giving you guys a chance to pitch in suggestions for when I rewrite the rules thread.
I'm not a terribly lenient person. However, I do not and cannot read every single post that is made in here. One thing I have noticed is that very few people in here ever use the report button when someone is causing trouble. Thus I may not catch it, and it'll seem I'm allowing it to be gotten away with, when in reality I just simply don't realize that it's happening.
I'm very willing to work with you guys and I definitely take action against rule-breakers, but you also need to work with me and make sure that I know that these things are happening. I've always urged people to report trouble but so very few actually do so, which thus makes my job very hard.
If you guys wish to put together some guidelines for debating, then feel free to. I'd think that'd be a great help.
Though you'd also have to be sure to clearly explain what all the logical fallacies are and how to avoid them. Most people here I doubt have had any real training in how to debate, so they may not necessarily realize what they're doing wrong.
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MY POINT EXACTLY!!!
Instead of fellow members stooping so low and arguing back in problem situations, we need to hit that little red button, if we really want to make this section a better place, that's ONE BIG way to start helping out, I see Ashtar has already started the Report Button Movement in the Iori VS Haybusa thread.
It sounds hard because I know some times some one says something really stupid and it you really wannna reply, but we all should give it a try.
Thats also what's going on now, the debates are semi on topic, yet after two or three pages, that thread becomes a different thread within a thread. If people wanna speak about how one Xemnas is stronger than Link in a Xemnas v.s. Kratos thread, they should just make a Xemnas v.s. Link thread.