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Mr Master
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Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
So us a favor, and explain The DCU animated and the Kingdom as they are both Seperate from the Infinite earths multiverses. Explain that to us since you seem to think it was only one multiverse.

I don't think anything,

it's DC that's spewing this info in this way.

In World's Funnest Mxy erased the DCAU BEFORE he reached Gem World,

so obviously atleast in WF, the DCAU is part of one Multiverse.

Infinite Earths was also erased BEFORE Mxy reached Gem World,

so obviously this too must be part of this one Multiverse.

Alternate Universes were erased BEFORE Mxy reached Gem World,

so obviously this too must be part of this one Multiverse.

In the Kingdom, Hypertime is defined as a Multiverse of Parallel Universes.

"Parallel Universes?" (that's what Infinite Earths is)

I'm reading Countdown now, perhaps I'll find the end of this rope.

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Originally posted by Mr Master
Last warning.

If you insult me one more time, you'l be ignored.

^^^^^

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Originally posted by Mr Master
Now that's something to about.

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Originally posted by Mr Master
So Gem World is a Multiverse?

I didn't say that. roll eyes (sarcastic)

But Gem World could easily have been housed in another completely separate multiverse. wink

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Originally posted by Mr Master
I don't think anything,

it's DC that's spewing this info in this way.

In World's Funnest Mxy erased the DCAU BEFORE he reached Gem World,

so obviously atleast in WF, the DCAU is part of one Multiverse.

Infinite Earths was also erased BEFORE Mxy reached Gem World,

so obviously this too must be part of this one Multiverse.

Alternate Universes were erased BEFORE Mxy reached Gem World,

so obviously this too must be part of this one Multiverse.

In the Kingdom, Hypertime is defined as a Multiverse of Parallel Universes.

"Parallel Universes?" (that's what Infinite Earths is)

I'm reading Countdown now, perhaps I'll find the end of this rope.

Hyper time is NOt parallell worlds. It's a completely different kind of multiverse than the infinite earths. And the DCU animated is amultiverse all it's own. So There are at lleast three multiverses he destroyed.

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Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Hyper time is NOt parallell worlds. It's a completely different kind of multiverse than the infinite earths. And the DCU animated is amultiverse all it's own. So There are at lleast three multiverses he destroyed.

There's no point to reason with him logically..

He'll just keep clinging to that one panel of his, and call all the other established facts being brought up, "moot points". roll eyes (sarcastic)

Jul 30th, 2007 12:22 AM

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Originally posted by Merlyn
^^^^^

I though you were suggesting Gem World was a Multiverse,

and since you were posting so many laughing smilies,
I thought you should know that was funnier still.

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Originally posted by Merlyn
But Gem World could easily have been housed in another completely separate multiverse.

Actually that's an impossibility.

I have the entire Amethyst collection, and I've never come across that info.

In fact,

Gem World is a Universe that belongs to the Prime DC Multiverse and nothing more:

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Not that this counts for anything but it's just another source of Proof:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amethy...ess_of_Gemworld

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Jul 30th, 2007 12:38 AM

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Originally posted by Mr Master
Gem World is a Universe that belongs to the Prime DC Multiverse and nothing more:

Proof?

Because those scans certainly didn't prove anything. smile

Jul 30th, 2007 12:41 AM

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Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Hyper time is NOt parallell worlds.

It's a completely different kind of multiverse than the infinite earths.

Rip Hunter (keeper of Hypertime in the Kingdom explains)

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"Hypertime,

Parallel Timelines which comprise ALL REALITY ...

the Universe they (the Linear Men) oversee is actually Part of a Multiverse,

(Hypertime) an Infinite Realm of Parallel Worlds"

....................................................................

Meh,

perhaps you';re right and the on panel evidence is wrong.

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Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
And the DCU animated is amultiverse all it's own.

Not in World's Funnest.

And can you point me to where this is stated outside of World's Funnest?

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Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
So There are at lleast three multiverses he destroyed.

As you wish.

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Originally posted by Mr Master
Rip Hunter (keeper of Hypertime in the Kingdom explains)

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"Hypertime,

Parallel Timelines which comprise ALL REALITY ...

the Universe they (the Linear Men) oversee is actually Part of a Multiverse,

(Hypertime) an Infinite Realm of Parallel Worlds"

....................................................................

Meh,

perhaps you';re right and the on panel evidence is wrong.

Not in World's Funnest.

And can you point me to where this is stated outside of World's Funnest?

As you wish.

it doesnt' need to be stated in world's funnest. We know that It is. Does Dr. strange have to state the he cast a spell every time a bolt comes out of his hand?

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Jul 30th, 2007 12:44 AM

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Originally posted by Merlyn
There's no point to reason with him logically..

Whatever you say duke,

you just took on the worst possible partner to be calling me unreasonable.

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Originally posted by Merlyn
He'll just keep clinging to that one panel of his,

This is bull

I posted proof from "52" - "World's Funnest" and the "Kingdom".

You posted proof from?

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Originally posted by Merlyn
and call all the other established facts being brought up, "moot points".

I only called one of your points moot, due to on panel evidence,
(Infinite Earths and Alternate Universe being Two Multiverses) NOT in World's Funnest.

I also can't recall when you have presented established facts of any kind.

Opinions?

Yes. (but countered with on panel proof)

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Whatever you say duke,

you just took on the worst possible partner to be calling me unreasonable.

This is bull

I posted proof from "52" - "World's Funnest" and the "Kingdom".

You posted proof from?

I only called one of your points moot, due to on panel evidence,
(Infinite Earths and Alternate Universe being Two Multiverses) NOT in World's Funnest.

I also can't recall when you have presented established facts of any kind.

Opinions?

Yes. (but countered with on panel proof)

It's already established the The Kingdom is a seperate multiverse than the infinite earths. And so is the DUA. No need to post what is common knowlege.

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Jul 30th, 2007 12:52 AM

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Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
it doesnt' need to be stated in world's funnest. We know that It is.

Funny how you completely ignored how you were disproven.

You said Hypertime was not "Parallel Worlds"

Here:

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Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Hyper time is NOt parallell worlds.

It's a completely different kind of multiverse than the infinite earths.

Then I post the proof that proves you're wrong:

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"Hypertime,

Parallel Timelines which comprise ALL REALITY ...
the Universe they (the Linear Men) oversee is actually Part of a Multiverse,
(Hypertime) an Infinite Realm of Parallel Worlds"

................................................................

So instead of acknowledging that,

you wiggle quickly out of that with this irrelevant and inconsequential post.

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Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Does Dr. strange have to state the he cast a spell every time a bolt comes out of his hand?

Then we got the other one agreeing with you and calling me unreasonable. laughing

I'm done with intransigence.

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Jul 30th, 2007 12:57 AM

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Originally posted by Mr Master
Funny how you completely ignored how you were disproven.

You said Hypertime was not "Parallel Worlds"

Here:

Then I post the proof that proves you're wrong:

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"Hypertime,

Parallel Timelines which comprise ALL REALITY ...
the Universe they (the Linear Men) oversee is actually Part of a Multiverse,
(Hypertime) an Infinite Realm of Parallel Worlds"

................................................................

So instead of acknowledging that,

you wiggle quickly out of that with this irrelevant and inconsequential post.

Then we got the other one agreeing with you and calling me unreasonable.

I'm done with intransigence.

Hypertime parallell Time lines. Infinite earths, parallell worlds.

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Jul 30th, 2007 01:00 AM

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Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Hypertime parallell Time lines. Infinite earths, parallell worlds.

Seriously, are you high right now?

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"Hypertime,

Parallel Timelines which comprise ALL REALITY ...
the Universe they (the Linear Men) oversee is actually Part of a Multiverse,
(Hypertime) an Infinite Realm of Parallel Worlds"

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Seriously, are you high right now?

(please log in to view the image)

"Hypertime,

Parallel Timelines which comprise ALL REALITY ...
the Universe they (the Linear Men) oversee is actually Part of a Multiverse,
(Hypertime) an Infinite Realm of Parallel Worlds"

no where in hypertime is the infinite earths depicted. you know why, becuz everyoen thought it had been destroyed. hence tWO seperate multiverses. Nice try tho.

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no where in hypertime is the infinite earths depicted. you know why, becuz everyoen thought it had been destroyed.

Wasn't it?

Or was Crisis on Infinite Earths an illusion?

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hence tWO seperate multiverses.

I still haven't seen anything that proves this.

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Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Nice try tho.

I'm only trying to understand the DC Cosmology,
I've read alot this past week but it seemingly contradicts itself.

no need for the sarcasm.

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Wasn't it?

Or was Crisis on Ininite Earths an illusion?

I still haven't seen anything that proves this.

I'm only trying to understand the DC Cosmology,
I've read alot this past week but it seemingly contradicts itself.

no need for the sarcasm.

at the point that Hypertime was created, The infinite earths was thought to be destroyed. But we know mxy was pulling batman and supermen out of the infinite earths. AFTER IC as well. So It's still out there. of course we know mxy can do what ever the hell he pleases. And he pretty much says that no matter the universe, there is some form of batman and superman there. so we know that It's out there in it's entire multiversal power. 52 sprang up from IC. but Mxy already talks about a different multiverse in superman batman. And The kingdom doesn't show the infinite earths persay becuz they were destroyed. The kingdom was elseworlds, and tangent and all the other publications of DC. that's as much as I can nail it down.

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at the point that Hypertime was created, The infinite earths was thought to be destroyed. But we know mxy was pulling batman and supermen out of the infinite earths. AFTER IC as well.

DC is buggin,

this doesn't really make sense. (not you, but the occurance)

How can Mxy access it if it's been erased?

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Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
So It's still out there. of course we know mxy can do what ever the hell he pleases.

He must be able to, cause the above statement is contradicted by other facts.

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Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
And he pretty much says that no matter the universe, there is some form of batman and superman there.

This could be interpreted as the 52 Universes,

which were supposed to be exact duplicates of the original Universe.

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Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
so we know that It's out there in it's entire multiversal power.

Although we can't know for sure.

And it just doesn't add up.

If Infinite Crisis was erased, how can it still be around?

This would make the AM's history obselete.

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Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
52 sprang up from IC.

but Mxy already talks about a different multiverse in superman batman.

Can you tell me the Superman/Batman issue?

I wanna check it out.

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Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
And The kingdom doesn't show the infinite earths persay becuz they were destroyed.

I'm not sure,

Rip did say,

an "Infinite Realm of Parallel Worlds" (and as we both know, that's Infinite Earths)

which is supposed to be destroyed. confused

I think I'm going to stick with Marvel, my brain is spinning. laughing out loud

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DC is buggin,

this doesn't really make sense. (not you, but the occurance)

How can Mxy access it if it's been erased?

He must be able to, cause the above statement is contradicted by other facts.

This could be interpreted as the 52 Universes,

which were supposed to be exact duplicates of the original Universe.

Although we can't know for sure.

And it just doesn't add up.

If Infinite Crisis was erased, how can it still be around?

This would make the AM's history obselete.

Can you tell me the Superman/Batman issue?

I wanna check it out.

I'm not sure,

Rip did say,

an "Infinite Realm of Parallel Worlds" (and as we both know, that's Infinite Earths)

which is supposed to be destroyed.

I think I'm going to stick with Marvel, my brain is spinning.

Well the in the Spectre series, Spectre Merged and saw an infinite sea of overlapping universes if I remember the scan. So there could be a new infinite earths created after crisis. Else worlds also happens after crisis. So maybe mxy recreated it all when he put it all back on that next tuesday? The other thing is, the editors wanted to do away with the multiverse altogether and the writers weren't having it. which is why there are so many inconsistant showings. As far as i can tell, The kingdom is some kind of omniverse or megaverse. Then there is the infinite earths, which may or may not exist any more. they did in world's funnest tho. Then there is the entire mass of verses in vertigo which I have no name for. Then there are the seas of verses the spectre saw. also given no name. Superman also saved the Omniverse. So We know that DC is quite large and infinite. that is all I really need to enjoy the stories. Same with marvel.

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It is obvious that Mxy didn't destroy everything, heaven, the 6th--he neither have the authority or power to do so.

And he said that the Multiverse they were in wasn't big enough for both of them.
If there were two, he would say something like these Multiverses, or this Omniverse--but he didn't.

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