You mean "First superpowered character of Marvel Comics ever created who has knocked out Hulk with one punch, something that Wolverine can't even dream of doing?"
Namor can lift 100 tons (according to new Marvel stats)
and the fight was underwater.
Namor's beaten Hulk by outsmarting him into
the water on more than one occasion.
How many characters can claim ANY type of victory over Hulk?
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very very few.
It was claimed by spidey that you wear down him physically and emotionally and the gamma effect reverses, he proved it after beating a gamma character much like the hulk, then confessed he was capable of doing it to the hulk after a long, tactical match, in which he wears him down, not really trying to kill him outright.
okay well first off...wolvie held his own and even eventually beat tiger shark (a namor villain of sorts) in the water.....but I'll admit he got extremeley lucky in how he was able to secure a victory....
for the purposes of this fight I assumed that the fight would take place outside of the water....in the water this match shouldn't even be debateable...namor gains an even bigger strength and speed advantage than he has on land, (in water for every 3 to 4 hits namor lands wolverine might as well be in still frame).....
due to that fact that wolverine's basically screwed in a water fight with sub-mariner i would have to assume this fight takes place outside of the water as that's really the only way this stays interesting.... outside of the water I think wolverine wins.. sure namor is capible of flight his speed is slightly superior and he has a huge strength advantage...but as wolverinefan said...it's nothing wolviering hasn't delt with before...
Namor has a slight speed advantage due to his physiology...but while wolverine can afford to take punshment up close in h2h and keep comin....namor would (and has for that matter) get downed with only one or two hits from logan..... flights okay but it's more of a defensive ability....offensively it won't do anything unless he gets in close, and again wolverine should easily be able to deal with him up close....the thing is, namor's a good fighter....but he's no wolverine...wolverine's better plain and simple....namor's speed and flight are great attributes but will only hold up for so long against a guy who doesn't need to be as cautious. Saying namor is going to KO logan in one hit is absurd....logan the guy who had a fist fight with a class 40-70 character and knocked him out...went toe to toe with warpath in a fistfight and was winning...hell, Hulk can't even one punch logan....and he's tried....and tried. Logan's durability is always sold short around here because people don't like him....he ain't getting KOed by namor in 5 shots much less 1.....
that said, wolverine can make a few mistakes and he'll probably be okay...all he has to so is stall for a minute or two and heal up and he will be okay for sure....namor however....he can't afford to make mistakes considering that he's a melee fighter and that wolverine's better at h2h it's more likely that namor will get gutted like a fish (....lol) than KOing logan first.
Now...if namor were to play it smart and whack wolverine with metal poles and drop chuncks of street on wolverine's head...than yeah namor would eventually win without even getting his hands dirty...but I was assuming this fight was more relative to what the fighters can do to eachother using the attributes they've been given...not a weapon that they may or may not be able to make use of....if that's the case give wolvie his weapon x gear....
mano y mano however....wolverine will win this...
__________________ "damn jinzin, you're a real trooper, you provde fact after fact and pages and pages of proof and these wanton miscreants just keep at it"~MERC
Oh boys please are you serious? Wolvi goes down in or out water.
Before i came to the board i liked wolverine but now with all this fanboy talk i am starting to hate him. It is ridiculious how some guys think that he can beat almost everyone. I am just waiting that somebody says that he can beat Champion, GL or even Iron-Man
The Invaders series did put Namor in a bad light, but that was because of editorial decisions. Marvel wants to play up Namor, and Jacobsen didn't want the character to become too enamored in the plot, as such our beloved sea King lost some luster.
shut the hell up! strength does not matter in this!
Height: 6'2"
Weight: 320 lbs.
Eyes: Blue-gray
Hair: Black
Known superhuman powers: Namor can lift about 85 tons at peak capacity, although his strength degrades the longer he is out of water, to a minimum of 40 tons. He is an amphibian, and breathes water and air with equal facility. Namor also can fly for several hours at peak speeds of 60 mph before tiring. In addition, he possesses limited invulnerability.
at peak capacity he can lift 85 tons. who's the idiot now? it is bad writing! one punch from namor would not KO the hulk. he is far more durable and has a healing factor. one of the only people that gives him a hard time is wolverine, who, infact, nearly killed the hulk when he was the horseman known as "death". read it sometime. if he can do that to the hulk, think of what he can do to namor
if they fought on land, namor will only have 40 ton power at the maximum. this is even less than colossus, which wolverine handles in the danger room all the time. im sensing that namor is going to retire after this fight is done
I just can believe that Wolverine can take punches from class 100 characters without even flinching. He weighs 300 lbs, a punch should send him flying like an piece of paper. Even if he wouldn't go flying, the damage done to his brain should at least slow him down a bit. Namor can punch him very fast, he could do massive damage to him before he would go down. And Namor has taken shots from Hulk, Thor the original X-Men, and the entire rosters of Avengers and they had made him only angrier. That crossover was crap on many things.
Namor would not have cared much about the first slash that Wolverine made. Neither he would have been so stupid that he would just have stand in one place and let Wolverine slash him. And in their earlier fights, Wolverine's claws didn't do much damage to Namor. And Namor used the metal pole in his advantage in that fight in Enemy of the State. Wolverine was nearly knocked out by that hit. And Namor punched Wolverine many times in his skeleton and didn't seem to be bothered much about it. That fight was crap in other things too...Namor hit Wolverine and he wasn't even hurt much. Then USAgent comes and knocks him down? Not very believable. Then they just...ran away from Wolverine. And Wolverine was seemingly untouchable by the flames that surrounded him.
Namor is experienced fighter. He is over 85 years old. He has fought all the major heroes of Marvel and won many of the fights. He is faster and stronger then Wolverine. If they both are written realistically, Namor could take Wolverine out easily.
And you do know that the info you have is outdated? You know, that Marvel sometimes publishes new handbooks? You know, cause the characters grow in strenght?
In this fight Namor is probably coming right from water. That means that his strenght is still 100. His strenght just doesn't automatically go to 40 when he goes in land.
You really should read other comics then X-Men for a while...
im not stupid. do u want me to make a list? ok here is all the people that can beat wolverine:
professor x
jean grey
silver surfer
green lantern
superman
thanos
galactus
thor
apocalypse
magneto
sentry
mr. fantastic
invisible woman
any cosmic
any telepath
wonderwoman
flash
doomsday
impierex
martian manhunter...........................and im sure there is more (notice that namor is not on the list)
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"damn jinzin, you're a real trooper, you provde fact after fact and pages and pages of proof and these wanton miscreants just keep at it"~MERC
you stupid #$%&*@
