He was stopped dead in his tracks by a weaker Superman after this death so he was stronger. The Guradians had no answer to a very weak Doomsday. they arent that great.
I disagree that the Guardians were unaffected by the original Crisis. They may have retained their original memories and such, but history changed is history changed and Oa is within the core unverse that underwent such change. Same can be said of the 'Infinite Crisis' retcon as well.
I agree that one random Guardian's power was capable of inadvertently powering Superman-Prime to such a level as to rival Monarch in a brutal free-for-all that destroyed an entire universe. Monarch himself defeated how many scores of Captain Atoms, Supermen and GL's from alternate universes? Yeah... that was impressive, and a testament to a single Guardian's personal power. During 'Sinestro Corps War,' Superman-Prime slapped around a whole lot of Earth's most powerful heroes, yet... he could not escape the grip of a single random Guardian. Strength feat, anyone?
I think it's presumptive to gauge overall power with the creation of a new Lantern corps. As far as I'm concerned, nothing's been showed on-panel, and I'm guessin that they're just manipulating the emotional spectrum of hope to build their Corps. Not powering it of their own personal energies, the same way the rest of the Guardians are doing with the Green Lantern Corps.
Honest question, do you mind describing this instance to me? Is this 'Cosmic Odyssey' or something else entirely?
I agree that the Guardians power the Green Lanterns. However, it is because they tap into the emotional spectrum of willpower that is collected from all sentient beings in the universe. While I am sure they contain a vast reserve of personal accumulated power, they are not the absolute source of the Central Power Battery. But I agree that without them communing with the entity Ion, there is no Central Power Battery. And as far as I am concerned, if they wanted to, any of the Guardians could usurp the entire accumulated power at any time, like Hal or Kyle have done. They just don't... because they have rules, according to the Book of Oa.
Ganthet when he was possessed by Parallax posed a greater threat than a Hal Jordan-hosted Spectre in 'Green Lantern: Rebirth' as stated by Parallax himself. I know this position is unpopular, but I just call em like I see em.
A single Guardian actually defeated Doomsday, before Doomsday could completely evolve to be immune to a Green Lantern's power. Which is evident, since we know that Doomsday was affected by Green Lantern power in subsequent incarnations. And it involves a bit of speculation that Doomsday would be able to completely evolve an immunity to Green Lantern energy. But Thanos is not Doomsday and does not have his ability to evolve anyway.
Ganthet 9/10. Only because CIS might give Ganthet some pause and Thanos a slim window of opportunity of usurping his power or blind-siding Ganthet and knocking him out.
The Guardians do not power the Corps. they gathered will power from across the universe and store it in the battery. No one Guardian has power close to that of the power battery.
Parallax said that Ganthet claimed that his powers were greater than Spectre, and from everything we've seen we know that to be false. It's funny with all this supposed power Parallax infected Ganthet was defeated by 5 GL's.
Don't try to reduce the events in 'Green Lantern: Rebirth' so simplistically. The way that the 5 perrenial GL's managed to defeat Parallax was by embracing, confronting and defeating their worst fears so that Parallax would have no power over them. I won't even bother posting scans of their penultimate fight. Anybody who's read it, understands how they won.
Whether one Guardian's personal power reserves approaches that of the entire Central Power Battery is irrelevant. We've already seen several Guardian feats and how much power they have individually. And we're talking about the greatest and most seniro of Guardians, Ganthet.
It's been stated by narration. "So great was the Guardians power that each one was like unto a living power battery."
On top of that, Guardians can share/draw power with each other on the fly with but a thought.
Thanos has almost no chance.
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Neither Doomsday, nor Superman-Prime tore through any Guardians. Doomsday tore through Green Lanterns. He never tore through Guardians. This is essentially what happened when a single random Guardian decided to end the battle: http://img105.imageshack.us/my.php?image=da1407na.jpg
Neither Guardians, nor Ganthet himself have a lot of combat feats. The Guardians put a beating on the Anti-Monitor. Ganthet himself embarassed a Parallax-possessed Kilowog during 'Green Lantern: Rebirth.' Most other times they let their Green Lanterns fight or just stand back and pull some non-interference credo garbage, like when they allowed Hal Jordan to absorb the Central Power Battery in 'Emerald Twilight.'
The Guardians still looked confused as what to do. Kinda hard to read the print. But they did take care of him. As they should have as Doomsday was the weakest we had seen.
The guardian in sinestro corps grabs a hold of Prime and commits suicide to stop him. That to me says he didnt have the outright power to beat him. All the Guardians were present as well. It shows they lacked the combined power to stop Prime amidst this chaos. This doesnt impress me.
Parallax hasnt been that impressive since sinestro corps. Hes nowhere near as powerful as he used to be.
These blue men also backed down to darkseid ages ago when they declared war on apokolips. They seem to be too standbackish to be able to brawl with the likes of Thanos. Thanos is smarter,more versatile,and more durable than any of these blue men. I still cant figure out why you think this guy beats Thanos if these are your ace cards.
Ganthet and his wife are actually powering the blue corps...\
Are you implying that a Guardian would have to be ION or Parallax max level to take out Thanos?
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They may be harnessing said power, like the Guardians did with willpower, the battery contains the willpower in the entire universe, but they are not powering the Blue Corps.
I'm not implying anything, I'm correcting false claims of power, is that ok?
Sure. If you want to go against DC's stance on a guardians power level.
Do we separate Odin from the Odinforce in threads?
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