did sasuke use TSUKIYOMI against kiraba?!?! i only remember that it was a GENJUTSU consisting of him being impaled by spikes. remember, that itachi and sasuke have loads of NORMAL genjutsu which arent tsukiyomi.
and i distinctly remember the japanese anime saying that kisame cudnt take him but he thought itachi cud, to which itachi replied that there wud be no guaruntee that they cud escape the battle unharmed and it wud putting them in unnecessary danger.
i just went on onemanga and looked. well plenty actually{and it wasnt itachi's mangekyo and it is coming more to light that itachi might have implanted ONLY amaterasu in sasuke's eyes} the counter genjutsu that itachi used on kurenai}, the genjutsu that itachi clone produced against naruto first time in shippuden, and i think the beginning of the fight with sasuke , he wasnt using tsukiyomi if i remember correctly.
and he didnt say "amaterasu", nor bleed from the eyes, nor was there a red moon. and amaterasu is unbateable, even if you have a BUDDY around with you like kakashi did.
oh hey that reminds me, one of the powers of pain i forgot to put down is that he has a jutsu with which he can make clones of characters with 30 percent the chakra, all battle skills and even kekai genkai abilities copied like sharingan{although mangekyo was unavailable} id say pain>>>itachi.
^ we dont know that, it cud well be just a technicality that a clone CANT have a mangekyo even if it can duplicate a normal kekai genkai. mangekyo sharingan/ultimate magekyo sharingan and rinnegan are the most special kekai genkais in the series. well i guess it just goes to show that pain is THAT much stronger than itachi.
guys its just settled giraya is the strongest
kisame compared giraiyas strentgh to that of the first hokage plus that of kisame
honestly pain and madara and probaly the third and first hokage can beat giraiya
pain said it him self giraiya could of beat him
on top of that giraaiya could of escape pain
the oldest people in naruto are usuall sstronger ill admit if itachi would have lived to be older he would probably surpass giraiya power
orochimaru called itachis sussanoo weak what does that say
Last edited by lexlyn2 on Jul 8th, 2010 at 04:31 PM