The Batmobile was shooting not him and there is no guarantee with people running around, and car gas tanks exploding because of being shot that no one would be fatally injured.
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The scene implicates that he timed it. What you're saying is of course plausible, I don't see why he would do it if he saw the gangsters entering a truck.
Whether he timed it or not when you are blowing up gas tanks in a parking structure with people in close proximity there is no way to know you won't kill someone. Or that he wouldn't startle someone into running into the wrong direction and getting blown up or something. It was not something I think Batman would have necessarily done with the whole shadow ninja angle. Definitely not subtle and definitely not safe.
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These are two totally different versions of the character but if I absolutely had to choose and had a gun to my head, I'd say Ledger's Joker is better. But, both are always a joy to watch. I can see myself watching both performances millions of times before I leave this planet.
I prefer Joker 89 even though joker 08 was amazing. In all fairness though. Joker 08 had much more movie time than Joker 89 and a script that was designed to make him look good unlike the script for Joker 89 which was designed for Batman.
Also, since was Joker 89 was the first real Batman movie in a long time I believe Burton tried his best to make the fans happy by including as much of what we know about the joker in the movie as possible. Norton did not have to do this we already had the Burton movies. This allowed more movie time for Joker 08.
to me there is NO comparison between Jack's Joker and Heath's Joker..
Jack was good, but Ledger was just simply a whole lot better
Also another main difference which I loved between the two..was the fact that Ledger's Joker had no origin story he was simply there and wanted to cause chaos and anarchy , while Burton had to give Jack a silly origin by having Batman drop him into the acid which I thought was horrible
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Burton did not give the Joker just some random story. The way it happen is from Burton but not the story. Joker is speculated or it is canon that he was a gangster before becoming the Joker. It was also the chemical deformity that made him mad. People who knew the Joker stories and who did not was able to relate with his character.
As a respected and top gangster we understood why he had access to so many people and things, which we get none of in Nolan’s version. Joker appears and is the super villain who does all things and has access to everything. Why because everyone around him including Batman is stupid. The fact the Joker is a chemical genius was brought out by Burton version and never in Nolan’s version. What you like is the new version of the Joker and not the original.
The Joker ideology first and foremost resides with everything being a Joke. That is what makes his character unique. Everything is one big Joke to him. Here are some of the most important characteristics of the Joker that Burton was able to express in much less movie time than Nolan:
• Chemically deformed
• Insane
• Crime Lord
• Jokester
• Obsessed with Batman
• Chemical Genius
Please tell me how many of those Nolan’ version clearly expressed? For the record I am fine with the fact that some people prefer Nolan’s version however his script definitely catered to the Joker whereas Burton’s catered to Batman.
I really do not know what your problem is. Nolan's version is based upon those not Burton's. You do know when The Killing Joke and Arkham Asylum: A Serious House on Serious Earth were released?
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