1. I brought him up because he brought up using A>B>C logic himself. Kenpachi would have been helpless? Why is that? Byakuya broke his spell by cutting his tendons, you don't think Kenny, who had the greatest damage soak in the series, would resort to that?
2. Would he beat his Bankai form? Nah. Did he have more cutting power than his Bankai form? Quite possibly.
Could Kenny have grown stronger? Sure. Then why the hell are you bringing up him fighting Ichigo?
3. No it isn't, it shows that Kenny hits harder than Ichigo for one. Wouldn't touch Byakuya? Why is that? Byakuya is fast, not that fast. Kenny himself showed impressive speed fighting Noitora.
1. Incorrect, never again was Shikai Ichigo shown to be that powerful. He did better against Kenpachi with the eye-patch, actually besting him, than two other Captains combined did. It was either temporary, or an inconsistency. Or Kenny has gotten much stronger.
2. He was not very injured after the fight with Grimmjow. And Noitora got hit like...Twice, maybe three times by Nel. His power did not diminish at all.
3. Ichigo's wounds were healed when he rose after being nearly killed by Kenny. He was fresh. Byakuya did struggle. What did I say that contradicted something else I said? It was a draw, but with context taken into account, Kenny was still superior.
4. He could have used Kendo at the start of the fight and killed Noitora in one move. He only used it when he had to, and he cut through all eight of Noitora's Zanpakuto with ease while doing so. He was not serious.
Powerful according to you, which means squat to others not so biased as you. I told you, read the fight, and you'll see that the amp is permanent and not an inconsistency.
He was injured, and burnt out somewhat. That factors into why he could not hurt Nnoitra.
The cuts were still there, therefore he was not healed. The blood loss had just been temporarily stopped. With context? Ichigo will always be or become superior to any opponent he faces. You were contradictory by saying it was Kenpachi won, and then saying it was a draw.
He used it because he realized he would lose had he not used it. That's another thing about Kenpachi, he doesn't bring out the big gun until the end, and against Byakuya, it would be too late. He was serious long before he used Kendo.
Feel free to deduce.
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1. Really? How? So you are saying that Shikai Ichigo at normal levels is more than Captain level. Then why did he not mow through Grimmjow? It is temporary.
2. Show me, granted he was not top form, but not enough to make as big a difference as you are implying.
3. Just checked, you are right, his cuts were just kept from bleeding, which has never happened again in the series, hence the temporary thing. Kenny when he clashed, had lacerations on his chest, shoulders, neck, leg, he was fvcked up. I never said Kenny won, I just said his showing was superior.
Seriously, looking at previous battles to judge possible future battles just doesn't work in Bleach.
Hell, didn't Ichigo have to use Hollow mask to beat one of the Privion Espada? When a Bankai was like equal to Byakuya. Then Byakuya beats the 7th espada.
Then the Shikai Ichigo stalemating Kenpachi, while a Hollow Bankai Ichigo was only slightly above 6th espada. Then Kenpachi easily destroying the 5th espada.
1 - So Kenpachi who is dependent on being able to WALK over to his opponent is going to cut his own tendons? That's a good idea, right?
2 - Heh, right.
3 - Only problem is that Byakuya can do most Kidou instantly and makes it nearly impossible for anyone to reach him once he unleashes his ban kai. Damage Soak or not there are PLENTY injuries Kenpachi can't just willpower through. If Byakuya gets his eyes, his throat, tendons, biceps. Byakuya could force senbonsakura DOWN Kenpachi's throat.
This would be one of the best fights...EVER! Byakuya is fast but Kenpachi can take a hit. I really can't say who will win, Kenpachi kinda beat Ichigo and Byakuya kinda lost.
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And I'm pretty sure after that event wit Kenpachi, he learned how to treat his Zanpakutō and started trainin' correctly. If Kenpachi was still the same Ichigo wouldn't be runnin' from him er time he wanted a challenge.
It is officialy stated in the "The Bleach Official Bootleg Databook".
"...his spiritual pressure is such that, even when wearing the energy-sealing eyepatch, Kenpachi can fight on-par with other captain-level opponents, even when they release their zanpakutō in either shikai or bankai form."
This means this guy can fight a Bankai level foe wit his eye patch still on. If this guy knew Bankai or Shikai, he would be THEE STRONGEST Soul Reaper.
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1. Walk? Kenny runs nub. And if Byakuya can affored to cut his tendons, then the character with the best damage-soak in the series can.
2. K
3. His Kidou, while powerful, is not enough to bring down Kenny, who caught the friggin 5th Espada's Cero in his hand like a baseball. Kenny has done all that and more, he does not just have damage soak, he has durability, physical strength, and speed, although it is less than Byakuya's.
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