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Originally posted by Robtard
So to re-cap, Spider-man has greater (in varying degrees) over the werewolf

1) Strength
2) Speed
3) Agility
4) Reaction-time
5) Durability
6) Spider-sense (precog)
7) Webbing (long range attack)
8) Intelligence
Completed, I think.

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And "Gobby" is far stronger than the werewolf.

Could the werewolf get out of it? Sure, with the claws, it would take some time though, and he'd be cutting himself in the process, which gives Spider-man opportunities to plan and attack further.
Gobby is far stronger than the werewolf? Proof?

Cut himself? Regeneration?


Savvy?


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Gobby is far stronger than the werewolf? Proof?



From page two, which you avoided and ignored, when you claimed the very same nonsense, I said:

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I love how you just make stuff up "Green Goblin isn't as strong as the werewolf", Goblin is at [or close to] Spiderman's level, dude.

GG was strong enough to easily hold a cable trolly full of people with one arm, that's several tons.

What's the werewolf's greatest strength feat?


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Originally posted by Rogue Jedi Cut himself? Regeneration?


Savvy?

And like I said, the webbing provides opportunities for planning/attacking, as were-boy isn't tearing it off in a second.


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From page two, which you avoided and ignored, when you claimed the very same nonsense, I said:




And like I said, the webbing provides opportunities for planning/attacking, as were-boy isn't tearing it off in a second.
I'll say this, saying that Spidey is far stronger than VH or Dracula is heresay and speculation.

How many times stronger than an average human is Spidey or Gobby?


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I'll say this, saying that Spidey is far stronger than VH or Dracula is heresay and speculation.

How many times stronger than an average human is Spidey or Gobby?


Hahaahahahahahahaaaa, no, not if we abide the rules and go by movie feats. I know you like to dismiss that when it doesn't favor your argument.

We went over this in the SM/Jedi thread. That train was going full speed (70-80 mph, iirc), weighed well over a hundred tons, had inertia and was actively been pushed by it's monstrous engines.

So they're hundreds of times stronger than an average human, going by greatest feats. How many regular peeps would it take to stop that train?


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I'll say this, saying that Spidey is far stronger than VH or Dracula is heresay and speculation.
No, it's a logical deduction based on available evidence.

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Hahaahahahahahahaaaa, no, not if we abide the rules and go by movie feats. I know you like to dismiss that when it doesn't favor your argument.

We went over this in the SM/Jedi thread. That train was going full speed (70-80 mph, iirc), weighed well over a hundred tons, had inertia and was actively been pushed by it's monstrous engines.

So they're hundreds of times stronger than an average human, going by greatest feats. How many regular peeps would it take to stop that train?
I said FAR stronger. Whats your definition of far?


Hundreds?


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I said FAR stronger. Whats your definition of far?


Hundreds?


The werewolf didn't show anything coming close to Spider-man's max.

Okay, answer the question, then, smart-guy, how many regular humans would it take to stop that train, from just the strength standpoint?


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The werewolf didn't show anything coming close to Spider-man's max.

Okay, answer the question, then, smart-guy, how many regular humans would it take to stop that train, from just the strength standpoint?
Just saying, hundreds is a generous geusstimate.


And this uber strength you speak of, how is it gonna help Spidey recover from VH's claws cutting through him like butter?


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Just saying, hundreds is a generous geusstimate.


And this uber strength you speak of, how is it gonna help Spidey recover from VH's claws cutting through him like butter?


Okay, answer the question then, how many regular peeps do you think it would take to stop that train, from just a strength standpoint?

You're going on the premise that were-boy would hit him before SM punched a hole in his skull. It' faulty, considering movie feats.


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Okay, answer the question then, how many regular peeps do you think it would take to stop that train, from just a strength standpoint?

You're going on the premise that were-boy would hit him before SM punched a hole in his skull. It' faulty, considering movie feats.
Theres no way we can guess how many people, man, it'd be more speculation.

Spidey is never seen punching holes in people, much less an immortal, is he? Nope.


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Theres no way we can guess how many people, man, it'd be more speculation.

Spidey is never seen punching holes in people, much less an immortal, is he? Nope.


Hahaha, that's a dodge. We know the train weighs well over a 100 tons, has the inertia 70-80 mph and is actively being pushed by it's very powerful engines. So, what's your educated guess?

I see, that logic, AGAIN. Well, Werewolf is never seen clawing through a person who's been super-powered by a genetically altered spider. So, yeah, he can't, dur.

We do know how strong Spider-man is though, going from movie feats, so punching into a human/wolf skull isn't beyond reason.


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Hahaha, that's a dodge. We know the train weighs well over a 100 tons, has the inertia 70-80 mph and is actively being pushed by it's very powerful engines. So, what's your educated guess?

I see, that logic, AGAIN. Well, Werewolf is never seen clawing through a person who's been super-powered by a genetically altered spider. So, yeah, he can't, dur.

We do know how strong Spider-man is though, going from movie feats, so punching into a human/wolf skull isn't beyond reason.
So its safe to say that Spidey can punch a hole in VH's skull, but not that VH's claws can rip through Spidey like tissue paper?


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So its safe to say that Spidey can punch a hole in VH's skull, but not that VH's claws can rip through Spidey like tissue paper?


No, I was using your logic back at you with a heavy layering of sarcasm.

Going by movie feats and applying logic, punch into (or through) skull and claws tearing are both reasonable.


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No, I was using your logic back at you with a heavy layering of sarcasm.

Going by movie feats and applying logic, punch into (or through) skull and claws tearing are both reasonable.
I see. And the fact that VH can regenerate, while Spidey cannot, what about that?


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I see. And the fact that VH can regenerate, while Spidey cannot, what about that?


Like I said, werewolf isn't unbreakable like Wolverine, can he heal after a death blow? Punch into the skull would kill him, as would ripping off limbs.


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Like I said, werewolf isn't unbreakable like Wolverine, can he heal after a death blow? Punch into the skull would kill him, as would ripping off limbs.
Hmm....Wel it's too bad we never see Spidey do these things innit?


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Hmm....Wel it's too bad we never see Spidey do these things innit?


That logic again, RJ? We just covered it a post above.


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if the fool can stop a train, its safe to assume he can punch through skulls. We never see spider-man fight a werewolf in the movies. But if there was a werewolf with hostile intentions we assume he'd fight it. We make educated guesses. We arent bound by some if it didn't happen in the movie, it could never happen logic.


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That logic again, RJ? We just covered it a post above.

Cant handle some of your own sarcasm?


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