Yes they did. Again, plague infested fleas. It happened.
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I know they dropped Cholera/Flea bombs on multiple Chinese villages as test; for the purpose of eventually attacking the U.S. with them,, but are you absolutely certain they ever actually made it as far as hitting U.S. soil?
I've read that they also tested 'fire-balloons', basically an incendiary device attached to a high-flying balloon controlled by a timer. The purpose was that the winds would carry the balloons to the heavily forested West Coast, then the timer would go off and the balloon would fall in flames igniting America's timberlands.
And...Robtard beat me to the punch...by a few hours. lol
Edit - And, modern US would have a history of many of the things the 3rd Reich and Unit 731 did. Therefore, it'd be infinitely more difficult to accomplish those tasks when Unit 731's bunker/base is dstroyed by a bunker buster.
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Going on the grounds that modern U.S. doesn't, it'd be a short matter of time before they did, spy satellites, high-altitude reconnaissance, Jason Bourne et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.
Like a said, a few MOABS in places of war production, each viable enemy Germany, England, Africa-America, Japan, Australia, Italy, they'd be set back months trying to rebuild their war-machine, all the while they'd be losing troops and armaments.
So according to most people, this is a spite, just like how the USA vs Roman Empire thread was a spite.
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Although this IS more reasonable, and world would probably win in pure ground war if they were all connected in lands surrounding USA.
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entire world of WW2. here in reasoning. people now have so much carelessness. (if that is even a word) about what they do.
back in WW2 the people had more reasoning on what they wanted done.
more courage in it self. im not saying that the technolgy we have today isnt good enough to destroy back then. its that if we were to try to kill them now it would be to easy. all you would have to do is sit in a bomb shelter. with a few snipers. and a assload of ammo. that would cover it. but hand to hand combat or close combat, as i should say WW2 would woop our asses. thats just plain and simple. they have more reason to fight and more willingness to. i mean look at how many men just randomly signed up for the army durring WW2 thats more than our army has now!
Shiro Ishii and many of the 731 scientists were given immunity and the plague outbreak was never "officially" linked to 731 main program or the chinese bioweapons program. however, there is documentation describing such a plan having been carried out in 1940 along with further plans to spray San Francisco with air born pathogens (probably bruscelosis or anthrax) and of Japanese Saboteurs sneaking in on submarines and poisoning American reservoirs.
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I don't know man. I think that brainwashing tactics have improved since WWII not to mention conditioning and hand to hand training. I'm sure that if a foreign country attacked America during the midst of a World War there would be an out pouring of volunteers to join the military. Look at how many Americans willingly signed up directly after 9-11.
I agree with you that desire and purpose is a huge contributing factor in any type of confrontation but from what i've been told by relatives whom served in WWII and from countless interviews on WWII documentaries it seems the main drive for soldiers was to get back home or simply survive...,not to save the world. I imagine that this is generally the case for individuals fighting in a war.
In this hypothetical scenario of the USA VS the world during WWII. I think that modern day America would have much more to fight for.
I still can't think of anything practical enough that gives "the world" the advantage in this scenario. Not only is modern war tech light years ahead of anything that was known during WWII it is so complicated that it would probably take years to re-verse engineer. Let's say someone gets their hands on a downed Stealth bomber or they capture a modern tank. They may be able to improve armor designs but as far as the targeting equipment...,they would be completely in the dark. I imagine that it would take their scientists years to properly figure out operate and reproduce the same technology.
I still see this war ending within months before the world would kneel under Modern day America.
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This is an awesome question and I am sure most of us have thought of it or something similar ourselves, but USA would win and easily. Our air force would fly over all the major cities of the world really fast and not use nukes but just torch them. Even in the 50's our air force would do a descent job...but we wouldn't win then but now no question plus our navy could do terrible things too.
The first key to victory is the capability of long range, very precise and destructive fire power. And the second, but very similar, key is the advancement in technologies that have given the United States, and the rest of the modern world, monumental advancements in the areas of reconnaissance (ie. night vision, infrared vision, satellites, etc.). I think that even a modern UK or China would have a chance at defeating a union of WW2 forces, if they had a couple more aircraft carriers and the protection required for them. Even at their current levels they would be a force, though. The US, I imagine, just has far too much in the way of tech. There have been some pretty major advances in the last 50 years. Imagine Nazi Germany with the tech today. Actually don't think about that, but I think you all get the point.
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It would come down to war of attrition and the Modern Day USA would eventually lose resources because one nation cannot fuel itself forever in times of war. The entire world would also have milllions upon millions upon millions more troops than the Modern Day USA, and the tech. wasn't all that bad, granted the Modern Day USA could just carpet bomb the hell out of the rest of the world for awhile, but they'd eventually run out of funding and bombs, and there'd be plenty more to replace the dead.
The entire World in ww2 era would win.
and everyone seems to forget the V2 rocket. The WW2 era armies would have long-ranged capabilites as well, and they'd outnumber the Modern USA army like 10000 to 1.
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Originally posted by ChakraStrings It would come down to war of attrition and the Modern Day USA would eventually lose resources because one nation cannot fuel itself forever in times of war. The entire world would also have milllions upon millions upon millions more troops than the Modern Day USA, and the tech. wasn't all that bad, granted the Modern Day USA could just carpet bomb the hell out of the rest of the world for awhile, but they'd eventually run out of funding and bombs, and there'd be plenty more to replace the dead.
The entire World in ww2 era would win.
and everyone seems to forget the V2 rocket. The WW2 era armies would have long-ranged capabilites as well, and they'd outnumber the Modern USA army like 10000 to 1.
The V-2 had a 300 some kilometer range. That's not even enough to hit the coast. That's not even enough to land in a place that America could see it.
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If the Nazis or Japanese ever did somehow take a beach-head on the US, I wonder how successful they'd be. The US is so massive and everyone has guns, there's no way either one could secure a major American city like they did to Paris, Manila and Manchuria.
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Originally posted by Quiero Mota If the Nazis or Japanese ever did somehow take a beach-head on the US, I wonder how successful they'd be. The US is so massive and everyone has guns, there's no way either one could secure a major American city like they did to Paris, Manila and Manchuria.
I highly doubt they'd even make it that far.
Already, thousands of US citizens "watch" the border cameras just for fun.
During a war, the "watching" would probably increase. In WWII, they had all sorts of volunteers.
Also, if middle class Americans can create paintball motion sensing "weapons", why not high caliber automatic sentries?
The United States could essentially do what they did with Japan to the rest of the world - terrify them with a showcase of our mightiest weaponry. A single nuke even in the middle of an open area would put the fear of a thousand nation's gods into them. Even a display with our superior aircraft above a populated city would dishearten them. Surrender would be swift for most of the world. Just because they're 'at war' with America, it doesn't mean they throw out the rationality of their leaders and the people.
Even if they made the likely ground push from Canada and Mexico, they're in for a rude awakening. Other than the fact that entire battlelines could be wiped immediately by our superior airforce and artillery, they'd have to deal with might of America's armoured regiments. An M1A2 could take anything a King Tiger or T-34 could dish out on the chin. Infantry commanders and high ranking officials could be taken out by special operation forces using our vastly superior sniping capabilities. This goes on forever.
As soon "War" is declared by all nations, America will be locked down completely. It's not impossible for a World spy to infiltrate American government, but it's highly improbable. Say the World manages to inflict a wound on the US...the war for them will end shortly. As Sun Tsu would say, never pursue an army defending it's home, as it will fight to the death. If something catastrophic were to befall America, then the World will feel the noxious embrace of her nuclear arms.