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I do not recall that shit.


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Notices that you didn't answer his question.


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He did, look again. He emphasised important infoez.


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He did, look again. He emphasised important infoez.
No he didn't, the bold barely even answers it or address the sequence.


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Watch the video again then.


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Well if Atlas never had any real intent to harm Kratos then I would think that lessens the feat.


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Yo, TV Tropes, I'm really happy for you, and I'mma let you finish, but Wikipedia had one of the greatest articles on me of all time!


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He's standing straight up.

And does not even need the use of all his arms to hold it up.

He has been doing it for thousands of years.

He tosses mountains like pebbles.

He is much stronger than anything in Zelda.


But yet Hades takes him down easily no expression And not only did Hades take him down easily, but Poseidon kept him down as well. And Hades is probably 6x smaller than Atlas.

And he wasn't doing it for 1000 of years. He had only been lifting up the earth for 15-20 years, probably (depending on the timeline from CoO to GoWII) Funny how you tell me to play CoO, and obviously, you haven't played it yourself.

Obviously he does needs all of his arms.

@2:34: The mountains pieces were small?

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Small by what comparison? taking into account Zues and Hades are bigger than mountains, and those piecies Atlas was smashing off were nearly the size of Hades. But Atlas holding Kratos is not a feat worth mentioning, I do not agree with the idea he defeated Atlas' strength or even a portion of it.


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Small by what comparison? taking into account Zues and Hades are bigger than mountains, and those piecies Atlas was smashing off were nearly the size of Hades.


What kind of mountains are we talking about here? Surely, a mountain like Everest would dwarf all of them.


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Yes, but the mountain Zues and Kratos fought on was dwarfed by Zues when he turned into his larger form. Although the point Neme made was true, he is stronger than anything in Zelda.


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Yes, but the mountain Zues and Kratos fought on was dwarfed by Zues when he turned into his larger form. Although the point Neme made was true, he is stronger than anything in Zelda.


Maybe I'm imagining things here, but it seemed to me that Zeus wasn't all that much bigger than the Colossus of Rhodes in that fight.


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Maybe so, but they fought atop a mountain which at his full size Zues was taller than, so it must have been a very small mountain.


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But yet Hades takes him down easily no expression And not only did Hades take him down easily, but Poseidon kept him down as well. And Hades is probably 6x smaller than Atlas.

And he wasn't doing it for 1000 of years. He had only been lifting up the earth for 15-20 years, probably (depending on the timeline from CoO to GoWII) Funny how you tell me to play CoO, and obviously, you haven't played it yourself.

Obviously he does needs all of his arms.

@2:34: The mountains pieces were small?
And exactly what is your point here? Their only feats are bringing down Atlas, yet that feat is supposed to discredit him? This is not even counting the fact that Hades was ripping his soul out at the same time, while Poseidon blasted him with lightning.

I forgot, to be honest, not as if it makes a difference. Also, please keep your condescending attitude to a non-existant level, you see I am far superior to you in virtually every way so I would prefer you speak to me with the humility an insect like you must use.

Obviously? Wow, is that why he was able to hold Kratos in his hand while supporting it?

Small under what comparison? Under Atlas', who rivals a mountain in size? Titan's backs are able to be fought on as whole battlefields, they are huge.

Seriously, by virtue of size Atlas is far stronger than Ganondorf is.

As for Zeus, he was flying BT, he was not taller than the mountain which went beyond the clouds.


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I dont remember seeing him flying at his largest form, show me.


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I dont remember seeing him flying at his largest form, show me.


Well, if body proportions hold true when Zeus increases his size, there's no way in hell he was as tall as a mountain that can reach the clouds.


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I dont remember seeing him flying at his largest form, show me.
If you were at a hundred foot cliff and saw a guy over the side, but could not see his lower body, would you assume he was as tall as the cliff?

The mountain was beyond the clouds, he was either flying, or had really long legs.


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Small by what comparison? taking into account Zues and Hades are bigger than mountains, and those piecies Atlas was smashing off were nearly the size of Hades.


Um, they weren't bigger than those mountains. No, they were not nearly the size of Hades.

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And exactly what is your point here? Their only feats are bringing down Atlas, yet that feat is supposed to discredit him? This is not even counting the fact that Hades was ripping his soul out at the same time, while Poseidon blasted him with lightning.

I forgot, to be honest, not as if it makes a difference. Also, please keep your condescending attitude to a non-existant level, you see I am far superior to you in virtually every way so I would prefer you speak to me with the humility an insect like you must use.

Obviously? Wow, is that why he was able to hold Kratos in his hand while supporting it?

Small under what comparison? Under Atlas', who rivals a mountain in size? Titan's backs are able to be fought on as whole battlefields, they are huge.

Seriously, by virtue of size Atlas is far stronger than Ganondorf is.


So someone much smaller than him can overpower him? Yeah. So? Looks like Zeus could overpower him as well?

I speak to you how I feel like speaking to you *****.

Yet he was still using his other 3 arms. If he didn't need to use then, then why would he use them? His back arms are not chained. And it probably could make a difference if he was holding the earth for 1000 years.

Notice the question mark.

I never said that he wasn't.

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Maybe so, but they fought atop a mountain which at his full size Zues was taller than, so it must have been a very small mountain.


So Zeus would be as tall as Cronos? And you said that in the Titan-God War, that Zeus was in his giant form, and while in that giant form, he must be shorter than Cronos, and if he is, then, how would he be as tall as the mountain? (unless it isn't that big to begin with) Kratos isn't bigger than the mountain in the beginning cutscene.



Hmm, now that I look at it, the mountain pieces do seem to be big.

He was doing more of a float than flying.

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So someone much smaller than him can overpower him? Yeah. So? Looks like Zeus could overpower him as well?

I speak to you how I feel like speaking to you *****.

Yet he was still using his other 3 arms. If he didn't need to use then, then why would he use them? His back arms are not chained. And it probably could make a difference if he was holding the earth for 1000 years.

Notice the question mark.

I never said that he wasn't.
1. Size does not equal strength. And he did not overpower him. not physically anyway, Atlas was brought to his knees by Poseidon's lightning, and Hades chained his chest and tore out his soul.

2. No, you do not, speaking to me in such an insubordinate tone is committing heresy against the Heavens, mortal.

3. ...Which are not all of his arms. no expression I said he does not need all his arms to hold it, and he doesn't, he does not even appear to be straining.

4. Kay.

5. Then what are you arguing?


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