Yet, I've seen absolutely nothing solid that tells me Firestorm could simply transmute one of the best Green Lanterns into 'salt.'
The auto-shields protect Lanterns from deadly force (except when Johns is writing), so it's not going to be that easy. Plus it's extremely hard to imagine Firestorm able to manipulate them when black holes can't.
Not to mention I've already given instances of a ring's matter/energy manipulation. Kilowog's manipulation to create a permanent atmosphere is extremely impressive. And the ring has allowed the user to completely change his molecular/biological make up and still function normally.
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And I'm just curious where this silly argument ends.
Silver Surfer? I've never seen him resist transmutation on his own body. Why couldn't Firestorm transmute him into salt?
Thor? Sersi has already transmuted him into a frog. What's to stop Firestorm from doing the same?
Thanos? He's never demonstrated transmutation resistance to my knowledge before.
And I'm sorry, but simply saying Thanos>Kilowog doesn't answer the question. It's dodging.
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once again, being able to resist the forces of a black hole is much different than resisting a direct transmutational attack. if you still maintain resisting one of them means a character can resist the other, then there is NO point in a continued debate regarding that topic.
creating an atmosphere is impressive, though it doesn't mean anything in this thread. don't care what other GLs have done.
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this part of your post is... pointless. the characters you mentioned are outside of firestorm's power tier. it would be ridiculous to assume a weaker character could deal out much *lasting* harm to a more powerful character. you seem to be taking my argument WAY out of context.
anywho, claiming jason could affect kilowog [who is around the same tier imo] is simply NOT as bold of a claim as the 'examples' you mentioned [nowhere near, in fact.]
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and for the record, jason has several other options to choose from [sans transmutation.] that's just the one ability we seem to be latching on to.
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Last edited by Galan007 on Nov 4th, 2009 at 02:50 AM
I think it's relevant. It shows a level of transmutation/manipulation that's on a level quite beyond turning somebody into salt (your reason for why Firestorm couldn't do it to Surfer, Thor, etc). Plus I've shown that the ring can turn the user's body into whatever with a simple thought.
You're downplaying Wog. The difference between him and Sufer/Thor is not a large enough margin to think that while he wouldn't be able to jack to either of them, he could simply transmute Wog into salt like *poof*.
With that said, yeah, I'm done with the whole transmuting argument.
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