I'm working on a post at home to sum up my thoughts. I expect to have it in tonight most likely or tomorrow night at the lastest. I'm actually racking my head against the wall thinking about the posts and how I see the outcome.
Jesus I worked on your tourney for like 3-4 hours last night and I'm still thinking about it the next day here at work
__________________ Quotes from Hia8:
"I claimed that the science is sometimes faulty."
"You don't understand. This is fiction. That means none of this stuff really happened."
"There is no writer to purposely ignore a character's natural ability just because it suits the story."
"in some cases because the writer knows that Character A will dominate Character B easily and refuses to allow this to happen for the sake of the story."
Last edited by rotiart on Feb 2nd, 2010 at 06:07 PM
??? This thread is over...What life are you talking about bringing up the baba?
__________________ Quotes from Hia8:
"I claimed that the science is sometimes faulty."
"You don't understand. This is fiction. That means none of this stuff really happened."
"There is no writer to purposely ignore a character's natural ability just because it suits the story."
"in some cases because the writer knows that Character A will dominate Character B easily and refuses to allow this to happen for the sake of the story."
__________________ Quotes from Hia8:
"I claimed that the science is sometimes faulty."
"You don't understand. This is fiction. That means none of this stuff really happened."
"There is no writer to purposely ignore a character's natural ability just because it suits the story."
"in some cases because the writer knows that Character A will dominate Character B easily and refuses to allow this to happen for the sake of the story."
Loki/Talisman/Captain Comet
Creation of a Fake Mjolnir:
You have not shown that with the materials available to him, Loki could create a Uru metal mjolnir type hammer.
Defense against True Mjolnir
Loki magnetized Uru metal chains to summon the uru metal hammer. In your case you don’t show that Uru metal is available to magnetize.
Wood Golem created by Loki.
The statute was created by growing it out of the ground. The statues themselves were apparently created and contained chronal energy as stated by Mr. Fantastic. And the rules state that constructs and summoning are not allowed except for green lantern type constructs. In this case, I would consider the wood Golem an unallowable construct/summoning.
The captain comet telepathic “amp” that Loki makes to me is a misinterpreted panel. Loki tells us he can increase a person’s telepathy to just below Loki’s levels, and later says he has increased that person’s abilities 1000 fold. That tells us Loki is more than 1000 greater than the other person, and not that Loki can increase anyone’s powers 1000 fold.
The opening defensive shield: was stated to contain adamantium. The panel this was drawn from shows adamantium statues being brought to life, and not statues being encased in adamantium by Loki and brought to life. Also, the dust is shown several times as being thrown by Talisman and looks just like any dust that might catch the winds, which brings up the fair argument that a speedster could render the dust useless and that your shields could prevent the dust from being useful behind a shield.
The “Luck Altering” Spell created by Loki would be considered a reality altering tactic and therefore also inadmissible. Refer to how domino, scarlet witch and longshot’s reality powers are considered “luck powers”
Nate/Thor/Flash
Talisman’s bag was argued to be ineffective inside the ensorcelled dome created by Mjolnir. The only problem is that Juggernauts forcefield was the only thing affected. And the remaining abilities inherent to Juggernaut existed. Therefore it wasn’t proven that the bag would be of no use to Talisman anymore. As to the argument that all magic would be ceased, it wasn’t proven that the bag would be.
You guys really ignored the shields created by Loki and Captain Comet. There is nothing that makes me think Loki can’t cast magical spells behind a wall. And while the shields may not be completely impenetrable, they are gonna be strong enough to hold back the enemy for a fair time.
As to the Meshing Limit: The feats you guys provided for Thor, Walter and Nate:
Push Thor over the mesh limit (WM + armor+ strength amp+ speedforce) =
Lets think about this, WB Hulk was considered to be skyfather level… and the amps you are provided to your cast puts them definitely to me in that range. You’ve made him comparable and blurred the lines enough between high herald and skyfather.
As to the Speed Force (Instant momentum argument) I believe you are both right. For a standard flash character, they may not need inertia… but for some characters who appear to not have as much experience with the SF, there may be a need to gain inertia.
Onto a couple of arguments:
Telepathy: Team KK (Onslaught locked everyone out of the psychic plane, sorry that includes even Nate Grey)
Power: Team GL. On sheer power alone Team WM Thor and Shaman Nate Grey are hard to beat.
Speed: Team GL Sorry, but the speed force trumps all. Proof that Comet could battle one opponent with FTL combat (not travel) speed was not provided. Much less against an entire team made of them.
Absorption: Team KK, Since Thor threw his hammer, absorption is out the window for Team GL
Final Judgement:
Creativity goes to Team KK. And if it wasn’t for the rules… they woulda won my vote.
But after consideration of the rules, the overall win goes to Galan/Leonidas. Their team works better even with a non amped thor missing a hammer.
__________________ Quotes from Hia8:
"I claimed that the science is sometimes faulty."
"You don't understand. This is fiction. That means none of this stuff really happened."
"There is no writer to purposely ignore a character's natural ability just because it suits the story."
"in some cases because the writer knows that Character A will dominate Character B easily and refuses to allow this to happen for the sake of the story."
Starscream... I'm gonna throw you out the side of astrotrain
and I don't expect my vote to go down well with everyone. But if anyone would like to explain why my votes were wong... I suggest pming Kahn and batdude for choosing me as a judge... In fact I say spam them for the heck of it :-P
I'm kidding please don't spam them
__________________ Quotes from Hia8:
"I claimed that the science is sometimes faulty."
"You don't understand. This is fiction. That means none of this stuff really happened."
"There is no writer to purposely ignore a character's natural ability just because it suits the story."
"in some cases because the writer knows that Character A will dominate Character B easily and refuses to allow this to happen for the sake of the story."
I think the best option for now, is to let the competitors rest, while the judges look over the matches. Once the winners are declared, if K-M is still in the game, I am sure Khan/Bats can work out a means to solve this dilemma.
Yeah, regardless of the ban I think at least the judging on this match should finish normally. After all part of the advantage of having teams is in case of things like this.
How about we let the judges vote. If km/ kris win then maybe one of the losers of the other/earlier rounds can switch up with km...
Tbh I hope kris doesn't get a ban... It's a little ridiculous.,,
__________________ Quotes from Hia8:
"I claimed that the science is sometimes faulty."
"You don't understand. This is fiction. That means none of this stuff really happened."
"There is no writer to purposely ignore a character's natural ability just because it suits the story."
"in some cases because the writer knows that Character A will dominate Character B easily and refuses to allow this to happen for the sake of the story."
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