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tsilamini
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Originally posted by carver9
He wasn't just manipulating the energy, he was draining the hell out of Warlock... chewing at his power. Silver Surfer is a blaster and Vulcan can turn that sh** on him as plain as day. Silver Surfer only offense is to go physical and even then its debatable. Vulcan was mind wacking/draining/ turning people powers the hell off with nothing but a wave of his hands.

This isn't a fight for Surfer at all... no matter how you look at it.

yes, but that showing against Warlock is an extremely high showing, especially given the beating Havok and Polaris give Vuclan at different times in the same series.

Vulcan certainly doesn't have the consistency that would put him anywhere near Warlock or Surfer levels

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Like I said... during mid battle, Vulcan is mimicking/using Warlock own powers against him. I don't get what makes Surfers cosmic energy so different when he has done the same thing against cosmic entities.

http://f.imagehost.org/view/0774/p05

This isn't a fight for Surfer.

Hmm how about Surfer being a better overall energy manipulator than
warlock? Seriously Surfer =/= warlock. they dont even have the same powerset....

Like anything u say....u are wrong and talking out of ur ass, and there isnt much else to it.

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yes, but that showing against Warlock is an extremely high showing, especially given the beating Havok and Polaris give Vuclan at different times in the same series.

Vulcan certainly doesn't have the consistency that would put him anywhere near Warlock or Surfer levels

CIS played a major part in their battles and Havok was powered by a star... we have no type of indication of how powerful he was.

When Vulcan fought people outside of the Xmen, he raped them... hell, the guy killed 90% of the Shiar crew when he wasn't even as powerful as his latest showings.

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Originally posted by Naija boy
Hmm how about Surfer being a better overall energy manipulator than
warlock? Seriously Surfer =/= warlock. they dont even have the same powerset....

Like anything u say....u are wrong and talking out of ur ass, and there isnt much else to it.

Wow... so Warlock has never manipulated energy?

What if I show you Vulcan tampering with the phoenix force (Rachels powers).

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Originally posted by carver9
Wow... so Warlock has never manipulated energy?

What if I show you Vulcan tampering with the phoenix force (Rachels powers).

Im sure uve been told this by many people...... learn how to read......point out where i mentioned warlock hasnt manipulated energy....smh. i said he doesnt have the same powerset as surfer and hence isnt as high a class energy manipulator than surfer. he doesnt have as wide a range of energy manip feats as surfer ad hence isnt interchangeable with surfer. The logic is easy enough to get (or should be at least).

Though i know who im talking to so i wont hold my breath.

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Originally posted by carver9
Wow... so Warlock has never manipulated energy?

What if I show you Vulcan tampering with the phoenix force (Rachels powers).

was that in Xmen kingbreaker?

lets see it..

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Like I said... during mid battle, Vulcan is mimicking/using Warlock own powers against him. I don't get what makes Surfers cosmic energy so different when he has done the same thing against cosmic entities.

http://f.imagehost.org/view/0774/p05

This isn't a fight for Surfer.

Ok I�m convinced.

Vulcan wins.

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Originally posted by carver9
CIS played a major part in their battles and Havok was powered by a star... we have no type of indication of how powerful he was.

When Vulcan fought people outside of the Xmen, he raped them... hell, the guy killed 90% of the Shiar crew when he wasn't even as powerful as his latest showings.

Havok fought and defeated Vulcan at least twice in that series when he wasn't powered by a star. Black Bolt annhiliated him.

vulcan is not that powerful

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Havok fought and defeated Vulcan at least twice in that series when he wasn't powered by a star. Black Bolt annhiliated him.

vulcan is not that powerful

Ummm... no he didn't. Vulcan defeated Havok along with the entire Xmen on more than one occassion.

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1 - on the ship, Starjammers rescue Polaris, Havok oneshots Vulcan

2 - at one of Vulcan's addresses, Polaris and Havok beat Vulcan

3 - An amped Havok has his way with Vulcan

I think that is all the times the two have fought...

and Silver Surfer would toy with the X men, whereas Vulcan has trouble with 2-3 of them at once, even in his origin story (imho, his highest showing outside of the Warlock fiasco)

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Surfer wins.

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black bolt killed vulcan. SS would destroy him. warlock's power was quantum magic, not energy manipulation. he could weave spells that controlled energy, but it wasnt his primary power and SS's energy manipulation feats>>>vulcan's

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Someone post the Quasar vs Silver Surfer fight. I pretty much see it going the same way - just replace Quasar with Vulcan.

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Black Bolt didn't kill Vulcan. As for this topic... I will discuss this later on tonight so prep yourself (at work).

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Ok I�m convinced.

Vulcan wins.

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Black Bolt didn't kill Vulcan. As for this topic... I will discuss this later on tonight so prep yourself (at work).

lol, bring it on

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Someone post the Quasar vs Silver Surfer fight. I pretty much see it going the same way - just replace Quasar with Vulcan.

yup pretty much

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Black Bolt didn't kill Vulcan. As for this topic... I will discuss this later on tonight so prep yourself (at work).

yeah he did. killed him dead too. in the end the bomb took them both down, but it was obvious that BB had won.

Apr 21st, 2011 07:20 PM