Or, as you tried to cover before with the caveat (I know you knew I was heading this way), you're going to claim that he was APPROACHING the speed of light, and hence, was packing a huge amount of increased mass.
But how much was he packing? And is it enough to KO Tyrant?
Tyrant can take hits from guys that can destroy planets without being stunned. Have you ever seen the Flash or Zoom hit with that much force? Also if we were to assume that Tyrant was a Galactus level threat, wouldn't he be able to put out a crap load of power? Galactus put a crap load out when he told the Surfer to herald his rage didn't he?
The fact that Galactus fed on a planet. And the fact that, you know, Tyrant actually absorbed part of Galactus' energies tells me otherwise.
Absorbing Galactus' energies did make him stronger and gave him the edge, but it was also a testament of how powerful Tyrant was. If he was a child compared to him, he wouldn't be able to absorb his power.
Im not saying that it takes a lot of concentration to activate them. After all it's been stated time and time again that he automatically goes into super speed mode when there's danger (although not for Barry), and there are many examples where Wally's done so apart from the examples you mentioned. Im saying it's difficult to maintain it for a long period of time. . And besides, portrayals are not always consistent, so yes, sometimes you would see the Flash casually operating at great speeds, but there was never an instance where we see Flash spending thousands of years between seconds, do we? And that's the whole point. Maybe he can for an entire day, or a week or even a year, but not thousands of years.
Im aware of Wally's and Barry's improvements over the years. Im only using limitations shown after they attained their top form. Otherwise you would see me claiming that Wally's top speed is a little above mach 1 (early in the post-crisis era). Or that Barry's top speed is 10 roemer (early in the silver age). All the instances ive mentioned are entirely usable and there are more. All showings after the late 90s are usable for Wally, and all showings after the late 60s are usable for Barry, that's the time periods where they achieved their top forms. And i tell you, even at top form, Wally was still being beaten by characters like Captain Cold and Grider, and Barry was even worse (ill reference you to my first post where i detailed him). So Tyrant would absolutely destroy them.
yes, I didn't take her words literally. He basically hit her close to the speed of light. But her implication was that relativity was the reason for the force of the punch.
she didn't actually say he punched with the speed of light. That wasn't her exact words. Thus we must go off what she meant. I took her meaning as close to the speed of light. And if she actually meant light speed EXACTLY then she is clearly wrong, as even a billion of a mph off makes her wrong. In other words, she doesn't have infinite precision.
Tyrant does not have to take any hits from either of these two. He has more powers than just physical strength. Besides the Flash and Zoom have never been considered to be high cosmic power houses. They simply do not have the power to do much more than annoy Tyrant. Just deal with it.
flash has destroyed AM body with the imp. It was already mentioned in comics that he can hit with the mass of a white dwarf star. That would kill or serious damage ANY high level cosmic.
Flash never destroyed AM with the IMP. He destroyed him by vibrating through his body which caused explosions inside him. AM was a complete joke in that arc. The fact that Wally was able to vibrate through his body while a couple of issues earlier he couldn't vibrate through random future robots tells us just how shitty Waid regarded the AM in terms of power level.
The problem using the Flash for anything is his power varies so much from plot to plot and writer to writer, I hate battleboards idea you can find a happy medium. The Flash has out run death, he has also been tripped up by a slightly enhanced human. The Flash has with Green Lantern created a tuning fork to cancel out angels vibrations and expel them from the early plane and run perpendicular to time itself. He has also been hit with a Boomerang more than once. If Grant Morrison is writing the Flash anything is possible....
Understood, but characters on Tyrant's level, have far more to rely on than just physical attacks. This isn't Gorilla Grodd that's being discussed here.
Tyrant nor Galactus is immune to blunt force. At max they get the highest durability discussed (or shown) in comics. What's their limit against blunt force? A planet busting punch, a 2 planet busting punch,? Choose.
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