Well to be fair, if Superman did have the power to stop Prime, and didn't, and allowed him to butcher everyone he has, he looks like a colossal jerkass who doesn't deserve to be called a hero. Sort of like why Batman is undeserving of being considered a hero for the Joker's continued existence.
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After revisiting my scans of SBP nudging that planet on another thread is kind of pointless to prove that. If He can do that so easily, Then He is stronger, how much? Don't know and why Superman never goes all out vs him is another is another topic.
Feat wise and after having analyzed the nudging of a planet there is no more point about it.
No need to use words as "utterly puny" as You can see Superman can also hang with teams of elites.
But yes I agree, He is portrayed as PC level. while SM is at best lite PC level
But still point stands You have seen SBP going all out vs Superman as He always tries to kill him, yet He can't, and We have never seen a Superman going all out vs Prime.
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Quick point here.
Not that your actual argument made change my point of view, as it not a real solid case, we could use the same example and show how he was defeatedby the teen titans.
What changed my stance was to see how easily he moved that planet and how consistently prime universe characters are very powerful, in the other hand we have superman moving a planet 15 times the size of earth under a red sun with help though, but is good starting point to see how much stronger he could really be.
We've also seen Superboy Prime rip open Monarch's containment suit, survive touching the Anti Monitor while it killed a Guardian, brush off Superman among others when the sunlight hit him in the Sinestro Corps war tie in, etc. We've seen Superman use gang up tactics on him before that usually doesn't mean gang up on the weaker guy it means guy on on the more powerful guy.
Prime has been consistently portrayed as greater than Superman. I've seen Superman go all out it still doesn't compare to a guy who ripped open Monarch's containment suit after reading through Countdown Arena.
i think superboy prime is a great character, the way he developes through the comics, how he actually blames the writers for all thats happened to him. not to mention how powerful he is...
what i dont get is why superboy prime is so powerful, powerful enough to break outta the source wall and even through dimensions, taking over different universes... why are kryptonians so much stronger in earth prime?
The editors and writers made up their own logic for this when they decided to make him a villain. His first appearance during COIE in 1985, he was no more powerful than Superman was; he was just another Superboy.
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SBP powers work differently, he is at full strength as soon as he comes in contact with yellow sunlight. Sbp is more powerful than superman but not because of the examples carver used because superman can do those too. When sbp decided to blow up oa he flew so fast that none could catch up with him and that included superman.
An example of how much superman holds back... The impirex probes were giving everyone trouble and were more than a match for the other super heroes. When superman decided not to hold back he was treating them like fodder. So IMO non holding back superman - minus magic weakness and no green k can replicate what sbp did.
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