what johns needs to be is smacked over the head with a wet phone book and never let near a major title again. superman dating wonder woman is like having the star quarterback dating the head cheerleader, so predictable and boring. instead of taking the characters and moving them forward for the next generation, he's moving them backwards because he a nostalgic azzclown
the concussion from the wet phone book will help him realize that he's a crappy creative manager and should quit. i would keep jim lee but only because his art is decent, he would be forbidden to ever creating new costumes again.
the new 52 was johns chance to update those characters and make them relevant to today's times. his writing is like an out of control fan boy. you can tell he didn't understand the characters or their motivations. conversations in his book generally went like this:
Flash: what's your problem?
Green Lantern: wanna fight? i'll take you right now!
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The way John set them up wasn't the best, but one of the reason there character fits was because no matter how much Kal or Diana tries, they realize they can't have any relation with mere humans.
When was the last time you read a Superman arc that Lois was not screaming for help.
Those two being together don't have to worry about said weakness. Hell for the first time in forever, Superman/Wonder Woman can actually Earth shattering sex.
Anyway, i can't wait too see how there relationship start to effects the DCU.
Who knows, maybe Clark already has her pregnant already.
Lois didn't screamed for help? Pretty much never from last decade and not one time since new krypton began. So, its just super-sex that matters, right?
The only time cap used lightning on superman is in Superman 216 and 9 shazam bolts after superman had a slight nose-bleed. In every other fight where superman isn't holding back he punks cap, the opposite isn't true.
AC Annual #4: Superman was possessed by Eclipso, and Cap wasn't trying to harm him.
JSA #34: Superman was possessed by Ultra-Humanite /w/ Thunderbolt, and cheap-shotted Cap.
Anyway, Jake is right-- they are physical peers, with magic being the factor that [slightly] tips the scales in Cap's favor... During JLA #29, when Cap two-shotted Supes, he stated afterward that he was only able to KO Supes that easily because Supes is vulnerable to magic. Same coin, during Superman/Batman #4 (their most recent battle, iirc) Superman himself flat-out stated that Cap has the advantage in a one-on-one battle, because his powers are magic based.
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Not in the start, but he was going all out once he saw how savage superman was, he himself said so.
He punched cap in the face using superspeed, that's not a cheapshot.
That was a cheapshot and cap brought Luck, Magic and suckershot as to how he koed superman.
Superman said "He has an advantage due to magic". Anyway superman was weakened due to kryptonite and still caught cap's punch and threw him away, batman's kick diverted him and he was koed by impact.
They are peers only when both are holding back. All out superman is flat out superior than all out cap. We can even go by relative examples, kalibak overpowered cap and Ace knocked him out. Both have been oneshotted or twoshotted by superman.
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