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Connor (ACIII), Ezio (ACII) and Altair (ACI) vs. Batman, Nightwing & Catwoman
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KingD19
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LOL Arkham City Bruce was able to beat 20+ dudes in H2H combat some of them on the TITAN drug, he'd decimate the Assasins also


This isn't Arkham City Batman, genius. It's Nolanverse. Nolanverse who is painfully human in comparison to the peak/superhuman assassin's.

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I didn't say it was, I was responding to your post, even Nolan Batman would wreck these chump Assasins

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Hahahaha. In a straight fight? No. And he can't sneak up on them either. Eagle Vision let's them sense anybody in a several hundred foot radius, and Batman, Nightwing and Catwoman are gonna be glowing bright gold.

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In a straight fight Haytham got beaten up by 2 guys, Connor got pwned by Charles Lee,

A guy with a gun would kill Altair, Ezio, Connor and Haytham

Cry moar

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None of the Assassins can dodge bullets, none of them can even dodge the line of fire, when Connor gets attacked by gunmen the only thing he can use do is use someone as a human shield

Haytham was a trained killer and a master swordsman, who got his ass kicked by two thugs

Connor got physically restrained by Charles Lee and put up against a wall

They are all peak human combat masters, that get their asses kicked by one of two guys. Any instance of the assassins taking out more than a few guys at a time are gameplay mechanics, canoncially speaking none of the Assassins can beat a large group of enemies.

The only exception is in Revalations when Ezio fought a large group of templars, he killed about 8-9 of them but ended up getting his ass kicked and captured.

Bane was only a better fighter because Bruce was out of the game for so long, once he got his nut up he ended up beating Bane, and Bane was strong enough to punch through a concrete pillar, physically he's far above any of the Assassins.

Nolan's Batman can take out gunmen with ease, Nolan's Batman doesn't get his ass kicked by two thugs or get physically restrained and put up against a wall by someone like Charles Lee, Nolan's Batman beat Bane who was physically strong enough to punch through a concrete pillar, something none of the Assassins could do in a million years.

You put Connor, Haytham, Ezio and Altair 4 on 1 against someone with a handgun and you would end up with 4 dead Assassins.



Batman can't dodge bullets either.. he's only human no expression

No he wasn't. All we see is him being brought in with two guys holding his arms, no other circumstances besides that, proof of this being Connor being in the exact same situation with 4 guys and him coming out the victor. Do you mean the scene where Lee chokes Connor not long after he was knocked out from a baton strike to the head, being thrown in prison and taking two more baton strikes to the head, lose consciousness again mere minutes before that meeting with Lee. So Lee, a soldier since the age of 12 who rose to the rank of lieutenant by 19 and later general, vs Connor right after suffering two concussions from three blows to the head.. this is the scene you're talking about?

/Canonly/ all the Assassins face large numbers and survive = they can handle it. Theres also the fact that some missions require you to limit health loss or be untouched by large groups in order to get 100% sync, which is canon as syncing means doing exactly what the ancestors did. Speaking of, you get desynchronized taking damage as Altair because he's never canonly taken any damage.. all the groups he's faced, even King Richard's 8 top guards surrounding him.. not one hit.

Let me clear up that 'exception' for you; Ezio after taking an arrow to the arm was sure enough of his skills to take on 50 guards with armour, weapons and crossbows.. not run, hide and sneak around like he could have easily done.. take on 50 head on. Id question what you were watching as its plain to anyone that he only lost because he was distracted by a schizophrenic hallucination erm

No, once he got his act together he was equalling Bane and only won because he cut his pain-mask (Bane didnt crack the pillar, he punched into the plaster/whatever was around the rock as we can see the solid rock underneath the now peeling exterior.. on the other hand Assassins can break off thick metal locks with a punch).


Yeah taking out gunmen means nothing if they're not shooting. But alright, compare;
BB- Bats hides so no one gets a shot at him.
DK- Bats disarms 3 men, only one that has the gun pointed at him.
DK- Bats surprises and disarms 3 guys with no one shooting, and the second they shoot he dives behind cover, only to surprise and disarm 3 more with no one shooting, again.
DKR- Bats stealth disarms in the dark and uses the shadows to hide from the gunshots.

Ezio- Takes on/disarms gunmen/crossbowmen in open combat. \
Connor- Takes on/disarms gunmen in open combat, uses meat shields to evade gunfire. }Not modern guns for these two but hey, guns are guns. With its accuracy and number of people armed, one shot is all thats needed.
Desmond- Takes on/disarms gunmen in open combat, uses meat shields to evade gunfire. }Modern handguns.
Desmond- Disarms a gun pointed at him.
Desmond- When fired at from the guy above he, like Bats, dives behind cover.

How is this different to Batman?


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Not even sure what them facing gunmen means in this match.. only Altair, Ezio and Connor have guns here so..?



The best combat feats for Batman:
-Taking out 6 prisoners while receiving some hits before his Ninja training.
-Taking out 8 thugs as Batman.
-Taking out 4 trained ninjas.
-Equalling Ras and Bane in combat.

Those feats compared to the Assassins:
-Connor, after taking heavy damage from two cannonballs colliding right beside him, defeated an assassin trained to use a sword since he was a child.
-Ezio easily takes on a greater amount (kills 11, directly engages 16, challenges 50) and tougher groups of armed and trained guards.. and with a fresh arrow wound.
^He also beat 4 Chinese trained swordsmen in his old, greatly weakened state.
-Altair took on 9 swordsmen at once which included a highly ranking soldier, a captain of the knights and the lieutenant of the Crusades.
^Then took on 9 Al Mualims.. 9 combat/sword masters at once.
^^Both feats without taking a single hit.

The Assassins take both crowd control and more skilled opponents.


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Batman can't dodge bullets either.. he's only human no expression


Are you talking about the Nolanverse Batman, comic Batman or animation Batman?


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Noland for this thread.

Though have the other versions been able to dodge bullets? I mean he's always peak+ to low superhuman right?


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Noland for this thread.

Though have the other versions been able to dodge bullets? I mean he's always peak+ to low superhuman right?


Yes, both the comic and the animated version are capable of dodging bullets, in Batman Under the Red Hood Batman dodged a fired bullet with his back turned.


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Just saw the Red Hood scene, and its weird, cause Batman was never meant to be that high above any human limits.


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Just saw the Red Hood scene, and its weird, cause Batman was never meant to be that high above any human limits.


True, however the most "human" Batman is the nolanverse one.


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And I said on the first page it is Nolan batman.

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Yes I know.

I was merely asking BloodRain if he was under the impression that no version of Batman would be capable of dodging bullets.


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agreed with sCOURGE_0 and Curbstomp_9

ezio and altair cannot even beat jack reacher, james bond or john mcclane. and we all knows these characters would lose to mr miyagi, jason bourne and batman

ezio displays no better speed than jack reacher or rambo during his fight against the templar army, and we all knows miyagi and bourne would beat reacher and rambo

bane would be too much for them and bruce beat bane at the end

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Originally posted by BloodRain
Not even sure what them facing gunmen means in this match.. only Altair, Ezio and Connor have guns here so..?



The best combat feats for Batman:
-Taking out 6 prisoners while receiving some hits before his Ninja training.
-Taking out 8 thugs as Batman.
-Taking out 4 trained ninjas.
-Equalling Ras and Bane in combat.

Those feats compared to the Assassins:
-Connor, after taking heavy damage from two cannonballs colliding right beside him, defeated an assassin trained to use a sword since he was a child.
-Ezio easily takes on a greater amount (kills 11, directly engages 16, challenges 50) and tougher groups of armed and trained guards.. and with a fresh arrow wound.
^He also beat 4 Chinese trained swordsmen in his old, greatly weakened state.
-Altair took on 9 swordsmen at once which included a highly ranking soldier, a captain of the knights and the lieutenant of the Crusades.
^Then took on 9 Al Mualims.. 9 combat/sword masters at once.
^^Both feats without taking a single hit.

The Assassins take both crowd control and more skilled opponents.


but lubbub16 from reddit said that nolan batman would beat ezio

your answers are wrong here no expression

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