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TheHulk
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He was over loved personally sad


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He's actually coming back in a future issue of Uncanny Avengers. He'll be a Horsemen of Apocalypse.



Seriously?


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Seriously?


Yep. Him, Banshee, Grim Reaper, and Daken.


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This, too.

The guy was loved by everyone, the most powerful hero, the best friend of Reed Richards, the only guy who befriended the Hulk and made him "less angry", inspired Spider-Man, etc.

I "get" the whole dark/twisted Superman archtype he was trying to fit in, but it came at the expense of other characters, most of which are highly significant characters in the Marvel Univere.

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Marvell fucked up big time by trying to desperately make their own Superman, especially when they already had good enough analogues in the form of Thor and (arguably)the Silver Surfer.


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Marvell fucked up big time by trying to desperately make their own Superman, especially when they already had good enough analogues in the form of Thor and (arguably)the Silver Surfer.
SS? No unarguable!


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he'l couldnt mess with his mind sentry has the better tp feat sentry wins all around and this is spite using void 10/10

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and yes sentry will be back and it wont be pretty

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Yep. Him, Banshee, Grim Reaper, and Daken.
WTF? WTF? I dont get that shit

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sentry inserted in the 616 was crap.

the beauty of his mini was its self-contained continuity and the sacrifice he made to banish the void from the world. by bringing him into the fold, they first butchered his character and then a dozen others.


Yup, he should have ended with the self contained Marvel Knight series.

That way continuity wouldn't be butchered and neither was Sentry's character and what he represented. It's funny how the Sentry persona started out more powerful than the Void one arguably and now Sentry is considered the weak link.

Regarding this fight, Reynolds at his best obviously stomps, whatever the persona is (In the original miniseries he was probably more powerful than all the other heroes in Marvel put together). But after he was reintroduced into the Marvel Universe, he couldn't exist as what he once was, hence the teary-eyed wimp Bendis wrote him as half the time. H'el can beat that version depending on his mental state.


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so this is siege sentry/void?


I think Siege Sentry/Void is lowballing the character. The Void that was walking through the Avengers, X-Men, Strange, and whoever else seemed more uber. The heros were barely noticed by him.


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SENTRY stomps H'el


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He'L stomps SENTRY


thumb up We finally agree upon something. wink

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Sentry can suck my balls, H'el beats his yellow ass.


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Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Yup, he should have ended with the self contained Marvel Knight series.

That way continuity wouldn't be butchered and neither was Sentry's character and what he represented. It's funny how the Sentry persona started out more powerful than the Void one arguably and now Sentry is considered the weak link.

Regarding this fight, Reynolds at his best obviously stomps, whatever the persona is (In the original miniseries he was probably more powerful than all the other heroes in Marvel put together). But after he was reintroduced into the Marvel Universe, he couldn't exist as what he once was, hence the teary-eyed wimp Bendis wrote him as half the time. H'el can beat that version depending on his mental state.


I agree.

The problem wasn't with Sentry, the problem was with Bendis.

Bendis tends to ruin character other people create. Paul Jenkins did an ok job with the Sentry Mini. By all accounts it should've ended there but no, Bendis dug him up, gave him inconsistent showings, ****ed his origins really bad and boosted him again only to have him killed.

Oeming did a good character revamp of Ares, what did he do? Turned him into a team player and got him killed by Sentry.

Same goes with Scarlet Witch and chaos magic, Doctor Strange, Dr Voodoo(lol propped him big time only to **** him up), etc


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WTF? WTF? I dont get that shit

Current Avengers made up of 50/50 roster of x-men and avengers so obviously apoc's horsemen must also follow the new rules of 50/50


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Sentry wins.


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I agree.

The problem wasn't with Sentry, the problem was with Bendis.

Bendis tends to ruin character other people create. Paul Jenkins did an ok job with the Sentry Mini. By all accounts it should've ended there but no, Bendis dug him up, gave him inconsistent showings, ****ed his origins really bad and boosted him again only to have him killed.

Oeming did a good character revamp of Ares, what did he do? Turned him into a team player and got him killed by Sentry.

Same goes with Scarlet Witch and chaos magic, Doctor Strange, Dr Voodoo(lol propped him big time only to **** him up), etc


He did the same to Pym after Dan Slott spent two years revitalising and building up the character.


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Superman's mutations are greater than Sentry's, from showings of abilities and on panel statements in DCnU so far Superman is more powerful than his former post-crisis self. His mutations, however, should be greater than any other Kryptonian as he has been exposed to yellow sunlight the longest, however his constant restraint when dealing with people seems to have affected the advance of his limitless developing metagenes. H'el shares no such disadvantage. He slaughters.

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