Achilles did get touched in the movie by Hector who managed to land a cut across his armor something that obviously took Achilles by surprise.
What I'm saying is that achilles was good but he wasn't unbeatable.
You also need to look at his fights.
He fought on the beach against Trojans who had not yet fully prepared their defenses even the city guard were not fully ready.
In terms of choreography and look there were quite a few times were some of the Spartans pulled off Achilles like feats. Obviously Achilles was better than any of them but what I'm saying is that odds are what happened to the Spartans will probably happen to the Achilles as well. It may take longer cause Achilles was a beast but the 300 Achilles should still fall.
The only reason the 300 spartans got surrounded was because a traitor showed them the hidden goat pass. There's very little probability of that happening here because 300 Achilleses are not spartans and don't wear spartan colors, meaning that humpback traitor (forgot his name) won't come down and claim he wants to be a true spartan and fight and thus he won't get spurned (which would be a good thing since Achilles will probably throw him out twice faster than Leonidas did).
In the end, there won't be a traitor, the goat pass will never be found, and the 300 Achilleses will never be surrounded.
Also there is no guarantee the path would not be found. If it is then they lose. If it is not they might rip thru his entire army. Tho with using the phalanx they might still lose
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Stop wanking Achilles. The film did away with the mythological aspects mostly. He was basically just a man in the film, though a stupidly good warrior with unrivaled battle-awareness.
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Well the persian army fought the spartans for what, 3 days? And still they didn't find the hidden goat pass. Of course it is probable that they might stumble upon it, and in that case the Achilles army is done for. I doubt it though, since the persians seemed more used to simply overpowering an enemy instead of trying to use brains against it.
Now if they do NOT find that pass, I guess it will depend on how good Achilles's stamina is. The persian army can't beat him as long as he stays within the general area of the pass (like the spartans did) and the only question is will he have enough stamina to go through the entire persian army? Or does his arrogance get the better of him and he charges straight into the persian army and leave the confines of the pass?
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Nah if we're talking movie versions, the 300 only used their phalanx properly for like the 1st day. Most of the time they were individually going matrix all over the place. But even if it was the phalanx, the myrmidons showed they can use a turtle-like maneuver that looks like a modified phalanx. Achilles is also a military strategist (wasn't he the best military commander under Agamemnon?) so he should be familiar with what formations to use in such an encounter.
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