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Darth Bane (DoE) vs Anakin Skywalker (RotS)
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Maul survives a thirty-meter fall:

Discipline.

Discipline is all. It conquers pain. It conquers fear.

Most important of all, it conquers failure.

Discipline is what allowed Darth Maul to survive a thirty-meter fall into a pile of rubble and debris: the discipline of his teras kasi fighting skills, which gave him complete control over his body, allowing him to utilize midair acrobatics to direct his fall and so avoid striking ornamental projections, ledges, and other potentially lethal obstructions; the discipline of the dark side, which let him manipulate gravity itself, slowing his descent enough to hit the ground without becoming a lifeless bag of broken bones and ruptured organs, Even half stunned by the unexpected explosion of his speeder bike, Maul was able to aim his falling body in such a way as to survive.


Maul describes his various parts of his training:

To Darth Maul, it seemed that his master had always been there, a part of his life-implacable, indomitable, inexorable. Since before Maul learned to. walk, discipline had been his guiding beacon. Darth Sidious had molded him from a weak, puling child into the ultimate warrior, sculpting his body and his mind as a seamless weapon. Maul was willing to die for him, without question and without hesitation. Lord Sidious's goals were the goals of the Sith, and they would be achieved, no matter what the cost.

Maul's entire existence had consisted of training, of exercise and instruction. Early in his life, before his voice had deepened, Maul had learned the intricate movements and forms of the teras kasi fighting style, the patterns of movements based on the hunting characteristics of various beasts throughout the galaxy: Charging Wampa, Rancor Rising, Dancing Dragon-snake, and many more. He had practiced gymnastics in environments ranging from zero-g to gravity fields twice that of Coruscant's. He had mastered the intricate and dangerous use of the double-bladed lightsaber. And all for one purpose: to be the best possible tool of his master's will.

But he had not learned just how to fight. His master's teaching had encompassed far more than that. He had also learned stealth, subterfuge, intrigue.

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What opponent has Maul defeated who was so skilled? Anoon had only opinion to back him up and Qui-Gon is unproven.

Anoon has the opinion of his apprentice and Qui-Gon. That's better than Kas'im having Bane's opinion.

For Bondara:

A Twi'lek, with slender head-tails and a heavily muscled upper body, his name was Anoon Bondara, a duelist of unparalleled skill. Qui-Gon engaged him in matches at every opportunity. For a match with Bondara, no matter how brief, was more instructive than twenty contests against lesser opponents.

-Cloack of Deception

At least she was not standing there alone. Behind her and slightly to one side was her mentor, Anoon Bondara. Master Bondara epitomized what Darsha hoped to become one day. The Twi'lek Jedi Master lived in the Force. Always still and complacent as a pool of unknown depth, he was nevertheless one of the best fighters in the order. His skill with a lightsaber was second to none. Darsha hoped that one day she might be able to exhibit a tenth of Anoon Bondara's adeptness.

-Shadow Hunter

For Qui-Gon:

Qui-Gon Jinn was one of the most able swordsmen in the Jedi order. The Jedi Master he had trained under had considered him one of the best the Master had taught in his more than four hundred years in the order. Qui-Gon had fought in conflicts all across the galaxy in the span of his life and against odds so great that many others would not have stood a chance. He had survived battles that had tested his skill and resolve in every conceivable way.

-The Phantom Menace

Who has Bane beaten on raw skill? Kas'im? He won with a Force attack. The Jedi in RoT? Zannah distracted them and killed one from behind. Zannah? He only ever beat her when he had the orbalisks.

Sirak is the only one, and let's be honest, he's not even worth mentioning.

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Force pushes and waves that can pulp internal organs and kill on contact and the ability to disintegrate opponents with TK. Far more devestating than throwing his opponents against a wall. roll eyes (sarcastic)

You posted the feats below so I'll address them there.


I don't know why since he's actually done those things.

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'There was nothing subtle about Bane's attack: the massive shock wave shook the very foundations of the great Rakatan Temple. The concussive blast had enough power to shatter every bone in Kas'im's body and pulverize his flesh into a mass of pulpy liquid.'

Nexus feat.

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'Bane spun and threw a wave of invisible dark side power at her.... The impact of the wave would have plastered her against the wall and crushed her.'

Farfalla isn't skilled at defending against Force attacks:

A Weapons Master was not skilled at defending against enemy Force attacks.

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'Crouched on one knee, he clenched both fists then threw his arms out to either side, fingers splayed wide. The resulting Force wave pummeled the guards, sending them hurtling backward so they bounced off the walls hard enough to leave cracks in the stone.

It cracked stone. So what? Maul collapsed a cave ceiling via Force push.

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Bane rose to his feet in the center of the carnage. Half a dozen bodies lay strewn about him, bones shattered, internal organs crushed into pulp. One choked out a pink, frothing spray with his final breath; all the others were still.'

Shattering bones on guards is as good as what Maul has done?

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'Bane thrust out with the Force, and a dozen of the oncoming creatures exploded into dust and tiny flecks of small, twisted metal.'

Orbalisk feat.

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'That enemy vanquished, he used the Force to disintegrate two more advancing technobeasts'

Orbalisk feat.

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'Then he began to gather the power of the Force. An instant later the cuffs on his wrists and ankles shattered, exploding into a million pieces at a mere thought from Bane.'

Nexus feat. Besides, cuffs are small and thin, it's hardly the best disintegration feat seen.

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And thats just TK. His lightning can disintegrate stone, melt blaster, incinerate opponents (in DOE) and produce well over a million volts.

Face it, Bane's Force Powers utterly eclipse Mauls.

Not really. Collapsing cave ceilings, pulling Eta-class shuttles and ragdolling Jedi who has moved ships and has the power to blast a door open with a stone is better than anything you've posted. In fact, the only legitimate, non nexus, non orbalisk feat is shattering bones of guards.

EDIT: When he shattered the guards's bones in DOE, weren't that in the prison ie nexus?

Even Zannah, who's sooooo 'weak' in TK can easily kill with the force of her Force Pushes:

'He began to gather the dark side, the power slowly building. But before he could unleash it he was hit by a wall of thunderous force rolling out from a corridor to his left. Instinctively he threw up a defensive shield, absorbing the blow. Despite this, he was slammed against the opposite wall, knocking the breath from his lungs.

Lucia was not so fortunate. Unable to call upon the Force to protect herself, she was sent careering down the corridor, flipping and twisting. Her skull smashed against the stone half a dozen times as her body ricocheted off the walls and ceiling, reducing it to a bloody, misshapen mess. Her corpse finally tumbled to a stop thirty meters away where the hall made an abrupt ninety-degree turn.' [/B][/QUOTE]
''Unable to call upon the Force to protect herself''...

Nice feat though.


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I won't. They was nothing affecting him negatively at all that would cause him to be unprepared and weaker.

Except holding back...?



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By what? The cave was large enough for him to swing his lightsaber fine and it was 2 on 1.

According to Shadow Conspiracy, the cave was so small that the brothers hadn't enough space to maneuver properly.

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Maul ran. If he 'pwned' Kenobi he would not have. He ran because he's not powerful enough to put Kenobi down with his Force powers. He ran because he would have died if he'd stayed.

lol

Watch the fight. In the middle of the fight inside the cave, Maul chokes Kenobi and then lets him go. If he had tried to kill him, he would've impaled him with his saber.


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Zannah uses a different style than was used by Galen in that quote.

Maul doesn't. Maul uses Juyo, the same Juyo used in the quote. Zannah used Soresu, the same Soresy used in the quote.


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> Maul was being stupid. Fact.
> He does. By intentionally drawing out the duel he gave them the chance to utilise that cunning. Were he not so dumb and arrogant he wouldn't have almost died. Whats really stupid is that he does this 3 times in a row. What a complete moron.
> Given that Kenobi has defeated him in the past after Maul had 'already beat him' its yet more evidence for Maul being thick as a plank of wood.
> He taunts him, allows him to pick his lightsaber back up and leaves himself open to go for a big overhand chop. Again, his hubris is his undoing.

>No, PIS.
>Quotes?
>I'm talking about when Maul beat him in the S4 final.
>Allows him to pick up his saber? He is swinging down his own saber to kill Vader, lol.

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He wasn't exhausted. He had the trip from Mustafar to Wherever he was sent to recover. And the droids didn't attack him straight away, he had time to rest.

I think we're confusing something. What instance are you talking about?

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In the novel Anakin in the “zone” was making Dooku look like a joke. Bane is equal to Dooku at BEST. Zonakin annihilates.

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Re: Darth Bane (DoE) vs Anakin Skywalker (RotS)

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They fight within the Corusant Jedi Temple. Remember that Anakin soundly defeated Darth Tyranus, he's no joke.

Ewww. sick


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In the novel Anakin in the “zone” was making Dooku look like a joke. Bane is equal to Dooku at BEST. Zonakin annihilates.


In the novel Dynasty Of Evil there are two different versions of Bane:

1. Bane at the beginning of the novel is just beginning to feel the effects of the Orbalisk-poison he contracted in the previous book - but he is at his physical-peak and holds the greatest speed-feat in the mythos - being fast enough to swing his lightsaber 62 times per second - a speed feat beyond Sidious and Mace in the Revenge Of The Sith novel and beyond Luke Skywalker at the end of the NJO novels.

and

2. Bane at the end of the novel is a deteriorating-husk close to the brink of death during his duel with Zannah and he is a shell of his former self.

Bane at the beginning of Dynasty Of Evil is faster than Mace, Sidious and NJO Luke - and Bane completely and utterly demolishes Zonakin before Zonakin is able to fire off a single synapse in his brain.

Bane at the end of Dynasty Of Evil is a dying-husk and Zonakin beats him easily.


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