Yeah, I could see him being outmatched by Quasar, but didn't Dazzler help Black Bolt in his fight against Absorbing Man?
Wouldn't you say that this now demands quite a lot of speculation?
We saw him absorbing artifacts in Asgard and Odin's magic, who then BFR'ed him. We also saw him absorbing Mjolnir, if that matters at all.
But he also tried absorbing Sentry and was impressed by a fraction of his power more than by Odin's magic. Then he got utterly destroyed by the Sentry.
I'm not saying that Sentry has more power than Odin - that would be insane, but what I'm saying is that Absorbing Man absorbed the attacks from one being and failed against the other.
Yeah, he also had low showings left and right, but this is now between Odin, Sentry and Absorbing Man.
In theory that could be a good point, but let's be honest here: Absorbing Man never really absorbed the full power of the Cosmic Cube. He took on its properties, but failed for the most part, because he was not as shaped as a cube.
He owned the Sentry due to the type of powers he gained: reality warping, which makes sense ... reality warping > molecule manipulation, since with RW you're playing around with stuff which isn't even there and with MM you're manipulating stuff that already exists.
And to be fair, the Sentry also contained an escaping Cosmic Cube and defeated the Molecule Man, whose origin got retconned to something Cosmic Cube related.
Doom is a weird character. Given prep time he would take out Odin, that is for sure due to the power of the plot. But at the same time Doctor Doom struggles every summer with Mephisto, so there is that.
To say that Sentry didn't do better than Thor against the Sentry is kinda ignorant, because you're using one instance of Thor to put him above Doom, while he has failed in the past and so have other high heralds like the Silver Surfer, while the Sentry tore Doom apart and left him staggered during their encounter.
Forget about the Beyonder instance. After looking it up again, I realized that it's not as impressive as I had it in mind.
I simply disagree with that.
That Sentry does alle the stuff he does under his power, while Odin needs special stuff to do some of the stuff he does.
Ask yourself this: After the double headbutt, did it really look like Odin was an formidable opponent for Galactus all along? After that headbutt it was sleepy time for Odin, while Galactus stood up and said that the Asgardians are annoying him.
Now let's imagine for a second that the Sentry would be able to offer Odin a fight (which I'm not saying for real) ... How would Odin fare against the Sentry? What if Odin had to return to the Odin sleep and was left unprotected against the Sentry?
But that is a flawed argument, because we saw Sentry burning out against WW Hulk. Sentry was weakened at that point, but even at full power someone like Odin should be able to dish out enough damage / take enough damage to burn the Sentry out.
But then the question is also about the offensive molecule manipulation, which Sentry did not have at that point and at this point the thread would turn into a Molecule Man VS Odin thread and there is no point in arguing about that, because this is Sentry VS Odin.
You're doing something which I don't like see people doing: Let's take Thor for example... Thor has telepathic resistances and a lot more good showings than bad showings in that department, but when it comes to a fight, where he might be threatened by it people start bashing him and they use one low showing to negate 5 good showings from him.
The same applies now for Xavier... You're saying that Xavier, who is supposed to be a better telepath than Emma Frost (which I kinda disagree with, but I wouldn't argue against it, because it's that close) wasn't even able to communicate with Galactus and therefore that's supposed to be impressive, but:
1. Xavier stated that he would have been able to put everyone he saw to sleep with one thought, but he didn't due it due to being concerned about the Beyonder. Galactus was one of the people on the battlefield:
2. Xavier has collected the minds of an entire Skull world (8 billion Skrulls if I recall correctly) and directed them into Galactus' mind in order to convince him to leave the planet alone:
Call me ignorant, but I don't quite get what that's supposed to prove.
Isn't even Deadpool to insane to be affected telepathically? But yeah, looking at it from that point of you that might be an argument, if Odin is capable of subdueing insane people.
There was an instance, where someone tried to invade Sentry's mind, but he wasn't able to get past the insanity, which would have consumed him otherwise. If Odin can fight through it and shut it off, he would have the upper hand.
Therefore I change my opinion: I thought that Sentry might be protected from Odin's telepathy due to him having mental issues, which totally negated the efforts of other telepaths in the past, but since Odin already fought through powerful insanity, why not doing it again ?_?
He didn't bash in either of the two posts that were made in fairly short time of one-another; both posts of course being the only ones after Bada's post.
Considering that the net effect of that attack was Xavier getting repelled like a bug(all over again), that's not much of a point.
Not to mention that your Secret Wars scan is pretty useless as well, because we saw that in an actual confrontation with Galactus, Xavier despite being aided by Magneto's latent tp, is still a gnat compared to G.
But seriously, Galactus has consistently been one of Xavier's worse feats when it comes to tping/mindrapes even when he has been amped/assisted. You might as well make a case for the Absorbing Man being able to drain the Living Tribunal dry before trying to prove that Xavier has ever performed well against Galactus on the astral plane.
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