wow, WHOLE HST, everyone? all hax included... i mean it depends on how easy he starts off, many people can 1 shot him, sugar and doffy body control combo?
Any hax from these verses can be broken out of with excessive raw force, something Goku has in spades. Even seals, Tsukiyomi and dust style from Naruto can ALL be easily waved aside or broken out of with levels of strength and energy that 10% of base Saiyan saga Goku scoffs at.
is goku blood lusted because unless he blitzes and blows all of them up at once any illusion based characters can prove to be a problem for him.... i still think he wins though.
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Vegeta resisted Babidi's mind control with sheer will power, and that was complete mind control, which is equivalent to the strongest Genjutsu in Naruto, Shisui's mangekyo Sharingan.
Not to mention that literally ANY genjutsu in Naruto can be broken out of with sheer excessive chakra output. Even Tsukiyomi was broken out of by Sasuke using CS2. No one in Naruto could exert a fraction of Goku's energy, so he could break out of any genjutsu like it was nothing, Tsukiyomi included.
Vegeta was never actuallly under babidi's control. Also its not complete hypnosis becase the one who is inflicted by it is totally aware of their surroundings.
Tsukuyomi was broken out of because of sasukes sharingan not the cs2. Sasuke trained his eyes to their upmost potential in order to develop the ability to break out of it.
Tsukuyomi lasts for a second i dont see goku breaking out of it
Koto amatsukami is different because the use is unaware that they are being controlled. It along with izanami are absolute. If itachi didnt explain how to get out of izanami kabuto would probably still be under its control.
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Hey were tryna make this interesting here lol we all know goku could just blow themup immediately but thats not in his nature. Since hes not bloodlusted the HST now have an extremely small chance of victory.... Strength is not the knly thing that wins fights
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Then why did Goku specifically criticize him for "letting yourself be controlled by Babidi"? Exactly. It's actually changing his personality and mindset, not just controlling it. Something no one in all of Naruto can do. Yet Vegeta could still resist it completely.
Then why did Sasuke need to go CS2 to break out of it? If he didn't need to be stronger, then why did he need to become stronger? lol
In reality, but not to the person using it or the person being affected by it. Meaning Goku can easily shit out of it whenever he feels like it.
No one that doesn't have ki sense. Genjutsu controls the targets chakra flow and in doing so, their five sense. Goku has not only way too much ki for anyone to control a fraction of(from Naruto), but also a sixth sense, that genjutsu can't demonstrably affect. Izanami can be broken out of by doing something different, or by accepting yourself. Goku has never had a problem doing either of those things without explanations.
Not to mention that even if it took him a minute to break Izanami, he would be tanking everything casually while standing there, considering him as SSJ3 in the Buu saga throws around and tanks universe/reality busting attacks like he doesn't feel them.
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