My point is that a direct feat-to-feat comparison may not be the best thing. Many Force users' greatest showings are not environmental destruction, but the scaling they gain off ragdolling others. Maul's also ragdolled Obi-Wan without circumstances in the comic.
Muur's "Mind domination" was shit, btw. At most, it amounted to glorified temptation, and it only worked on Shado Vao and non-Force sensitives like Pulsipher. ****ing Celeste Morne resisted it. As a person with no interest in the power that Muur could offer him, Cade wouldn't need a whole lot of willpower to get through that. Maul certainly would be able to.
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I thought Zoltan didn't accept that for Muur vs Krayt.
Nevertheless, off-panel can merely portray simultaneous events, not successive ones. That doesn't mean it's a minute or more. You can argue that it's probably a longer fight that one would get the impression of, but I'd avoid numbers.
Right, so Kenobi literally throwing himself at Maul, monologing and getting interrupted at the middle of the sentence doesn't count as being "distracted", but Kyp not looking at Kenth when he got owned does. Lmao.
Yes, I'm sure charging at someone (because I always leave myself open when I engage in battle with someone) and getting choked by them is in the same ballpark was getting attacked by a third party when you're concentrating on something else entirely, since, you know, I always have my defenses covered for a random attack when I'm doing something.
I recall you dismissing Muur's duel against Krayt as lasting a page, even though off-panel, it was four or five pages. But I could be wrong.
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They are angry because they have been forced to recognize that their hour has arrived; that the time has come to surrender power to Shimrra and the new order."
Kyp wasn't concentrating on anything, he just pushed Corran and then was standing there. He might've not expected to get pinned to the wall by Kenth, but Kenobi wasn't expected to get choked either, otherwise he wouldn't have been monologing. And he wasn't even in a fighting stance anyway, he just wanted to trade himself for the girl or something.
All in all, your acceptance or dismissal of what is a legit ragdolling and what is not is pretty inconsistent. I remember you even trying to write off Vader ragdolling Starkiller as a "momentary laps in defense", when Kenobi pretty much only gets ragdolled like that...
Doubt it, unless out of ignorance. I don't dismiss off-screen/page out of the length of a duel.
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Last edited by cs_zoltan on Sep 22nd, 2016 at 12:28 PM
Ehhh i mean Kyle and Jacen have a conversation while dueling in the span of 5 seconds and a Padawan is able to process whats happening in that same time so... Meh
I just find it funny that you cherry pick cutscenes yet apparently don't take confirmed events in the TFUII campaign guide which would put Starkiller and Vader both far above Krayt.
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