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I honestly think there are several characters with better reflexes than Parker over at marvel. Hes just "cheats" due to precog


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How is this even a question? Peter is not even a speedster, he gets punked at classic quicksilver level speed. Diana is a legit speedster who can run at foot with low level flashes like Jesse Quick.

Does anybody thinks Spidey can compete at that level?


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Nobody posted the Shattered God feat yet? stick out tongue


small star light > puny laser light wink

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How is this even a question? Peter is not even a speedster, he gets punked at classic quicksilver level speed. Diana is a legit speedster who can run at foot with low level flashes like Jesse Quick.

Does anybody thinks Spidey can compete at that level?


It's a question bc not everyone breaks down comics like we always do. How many regular readers of comics think about stuff like this? Even diehards can be curious about stuff that seems obvious to KMC grognards.

I don't think anyone has backed Spidey in this thread so far, including me. The only reason I popped in was to dispel the idea that the scan posted on the last page is a one-off showing for Pete.


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It's not that impressive honesty. Steve Trevor managed to dodge them and Diana was out flying them in atmosphere for some time without even going into orbit.

The shards were teleported from all over the universe essentially.


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It's a question bc not everyone breaks down comics like we always do. How many regular readers of comics think about stuff like this? Even diehards can be curious about stuff that seems obvious to KMC grognards.

I don't think anyone has backed Spidey in this thread so far, including me. The only reason I popped in was to dispel the idea that the scan posted on the last page is a one-off showing for Pete.

That's nothing Batman or Daredevil can't do. Dodging lasers is a routine thing for streets.

For example Batman dodged Dr Light attack in a similar fashion as Pete. It happens all the time.


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It's a question bc not everyone breaks down comics like we always do. How many regular readers of comics think about stuff like this? Even diehards can be curious about stuff that seems obvious to KMC grognards.

I don't think anyone has backed Spidey in this thread so far, including me. The only reason I popped in was to dispel the idea that the scan posted on the last page is a one-off showing for Pete.


I don't think its a one off, but I do think that particular scan is at one end of the spectrum and him getting hit by a run of the mill standard bank robbing thug is at the other end - more or less. If you dissect that actual feat, the 8 lazer beams, the weaving of the limbs, him in motion on the flip, the inward commentary playing this off as something he can do in his sleep. I might be wrong, god knows I don't read a lot of spiderman, but at what point does a feat get moved into that "that's abit impressive to be the norm" category, the way we use him getting hit by mr robber in the "that's too lame to be the norm" category?


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Abhi's negativity aside ( stick out tongue ), thanks for taling the question the way it was meant, and giving me some really great feedback. thumb up


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Abhi is just mad that Diana is that much faster than Superman smile


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WW reacts faster, but Spider-Man reacts before the threat happens.

So even though she is faster, he reacts first.


This isn't how it works at all if the speed gap is big enough. Which for WW and Spider-Man, it is. So he won't be reacting first, his speed and precog have limits.

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Abhi is just mad that Diana is that much faster than Superman smile


No reason to be mad over something that isn't true.


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Dont care about Superman, not here at least.
Just that wall crawling menace.


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Dont care about Superman, not here at least.
Just that wall crawling menace.


Well, stronger versions of WW can move at a significant fraction of the speed of light at the very least. Spidey is hosed. Even if his precog did show him what was about to happen he would not actually be able to react quick enough to do anything about it.


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This isn't how it works at all if the speed gap is big enough. Which for WW and Spider-Man, it is. So he won't be reacting first, his speed and precog have limits.



No reason to be mad over something that isn't true.



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Stiltsie is just mad because everybody and their uncle is waaaaaaay faster than Batman.


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Abhi is just mad that Diana is that much faster than Superman smile


Try baiting with something better.


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Well, stronger versions of WW can move at a significant fraction of the speed of light at the very least. Spidey is hosed. Even if his precog did show him what was about to happen he would not actually be able to react quick enough to do anything about it.

Dont really think this applies to her just blocking, though i can see how it might.
I do agree that overall, she's obviously faster.


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We're not comparing her dodging ability to his, lets just clarify that in case this gets more input.
We're comparing her (WWs) ability to BLOCK projectiles, energy attacks etc. to HIS (Spidey's) ability to dodge the same type of attacks.
it would take more skill to block than dodge but more speed to dodge than block.


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Why did that a) make sense to me and b) sound like Mr. Miyagi in my head?


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WW's is better.

Depending on the writer, Spidey's SS doesn't ALWAYS help him. In darkness, where he can't see, there have been several depictions where it is shown the SS won't tell him what is the danger, or where it is coming from.

Obviously, you have other showings where it is essentially detailed precog.

Without the SS, he can be outreacted by humans. The Spot manages to outreact him, and he is hardly a trained fighter with any enhanced stats.

Once the SS is turned off, Spidey isn't anything to write home about.

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