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Originally posted by Existere
because Dr. Light didn’t use that tactic against Cyborg, he won’t use it against Droidtastic… but I’m in control here,

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Originally posted by Blair Wind
[ Self or Characters: We're drafting the characters, not granting ourselves the powers. So CIS is on the table.

• Strength - Droidtastic >>>>> Psychadelic
  
• Durability - Droidtastic >>>>> Psychadelic
  
• Energy Projection - Droidtastic > Psychadelic
  
• Energy Absorption - Droidtastic >/= Psychadelic
  
• Reflexes - Droidtastic >> Psychadelic
  
• Thought processing speed - Droidtastic >>>>>> Psychadelic
  
• Flight speed - Psychadelic >>>Droidtastic
  
• Logic/brain power - Droidtastic >>>> Psychadelic
  
• Stamina - Droidtastic >>>>>>>>>> Psychadelic

• I could've sworn I posted this before

• Solid Dr. Light performing drain to support immaterial Dr. Light performing drain
  
• Solid Dr. Light power use = photonic Dr. Light power use
  
• Psylocke affecting tech related biological life forms to show susceptability of completely non-biological life forms to TP
  
• Dr. Light is a speedster

• and light-based beings can not pass through sufficiently dense foes

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DarkSaint85 wrote on Mar 29th, 2015 06:22 PM:
My vote is for Existere.

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Charlotte DeBel wrote on Mar 30th, 2015 09:13 AM:
Very close strat. So... let's go.

Amalgamation - I DO not believe in total immunity against psionics resulting from robot/human amalgam. If anything, Droidtastic is something like Karima Shapandar - which HAD psi-blades used on her successfully.
But then it's where bad news for Smurph come - TK knife is a close relative of those very blasts the Sue Storm shielding deflects. So while this route of attack is not specifically out, its power will be diminished.

Next- CIS is on, so "using the powers of characters better than the characters used them on panel" is off. Iron Lad and Super Skrull are highly adaptable in the ways Betsy & Doctor Light are not.
This is the repeat of why I was not convinced of Raven using phased form for attack. NO showings of energy drain from solid Doctor Light, and Betsy not having Emma's schtick of using the powers of bodies she possess in a way original user could not swayed my vote in Scoobless favor. Though this was very, very close, and thanks again for the outstanding fight.

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Newjak wrote on Apr 1st, 2015 07:16 PM:
Good match guys.

First thing I will say is I was disappointed with the attempts to pass of now only different characters but different characters from other companies.

I'm sorry but just because Monica can go through Magento's shields doesn't mean I am automatically going to believe Light will bypass the Skrull's shields.

Or that because Despero couldn't mind rape the Red Tornado that I will use that feat for Vision.

Okay small rant over.

Let's break this down.

Telepathy:
I think Scoobs did a good job of showing that Vision's mind is telepathic resistance. I'm not sure I agree with Existere's interpretation of Vision not having his synthetic mind.

Existere's blade is awesome. I would have liked to see it used against a phased opponent though as Scoobs has said he will be using his phasing abilities in this match.

Speed:
I don't think based on the evidence presented that Light has light speed reactions. Does he have good travel speed yes but Scoob's raised valid concerns and scans showing that Light may not be that fast.

Vision/Skrull may not be as fast in straight speed but from an analytic standpoint he can process a lot.

Defense:
Light's light form is cool but I'm not sure how offensive he can be against Scoob's character. Flying through humans is cool but Scoob's character is a little more durable than that.

I'm not sure is Scoob's force field can keep out Existere or his blade.

I also do not think they will be able to effectively hide from each other.

Offense

So if Existere goes physical form he defeinitely doesn't have the durability based on scans to take anything from Scoob's character.

I don't know how effective the knife will be on phased Vision.

Light's draining powers are extremely dangerous though as shown by Existere. I'm not sure if he can drain all of Vision/Skrull's powers but I'm not sure Scoobs countered well enough.

It's tough but I think Existere's character is a little too fragile.

Vote to Scoobs

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abhilegend wrote on Apr 5th, 2015 01:23 AM:
Smurph has used a very clever amalgamation and I thought Scoob used too much of ABC comparison in his arguments. I was convinced by Smurph that Psylocke can affect Vision and Scoob couldn't really post a good rebuttal for that. Also his attempts to show Dr. Light's speed is slow was strange.

Also Scoob really didn't put too much emphasis on how he could beat Smurph's character, he spent too much time on defensive. That hurt his arguments too.

So it was close, but my vote goes to Smurf.

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"Id" wrote on Apr 9th, 2015 02:35 PM:
My own power comparison.

• Strength - Droidtastic
  
• Durability - Droidtastic
  
• Energy Projection - Psychadelic
  
• Energy Absorption/Manipulation - Psychadelic
  
• Reflexes - Psychadelic
  
• Speed - Psychadelic
  
• Thought processing speed - Psychadelic
  
• Flight speed - Psychadelic
  
• Logic/brain power - Droidtastic
  
• Abilities/Adaptability - Droidtastic
  
• Stamina - Tie
  

I am convinced that Droidtastic holds more physical prowess thanks to the Vision/SS. Interesting enough Scoobs put together an Amalgam that benefits in calling up several powers, on top being able to shape his body into virtually anything thanks to Skrull/Mr. Fantastic, on top of the ability to break down the body into individual nanites. Its one of the more adaptable teams in this turney. A combination of Abilities, Adaptability, and raw physical force. Nice.

On to Psychadelic. Take a Psychic Ninja, that has trained for her actions and thoughts to be cohesive, and grant her a luminous body, and photonic powers, than yes the result would be a lightspeed ninja with psychic and energy powers to boot. Speed kills, and when a speedster is armed with Omega Level Psy, makes her extremely deadly. Bueno.

That rounds out the above.
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Lets remove the Elephants in the room.

Scoobs should relay more on using scans from the characters history he pick or is combating, and less from other characters as they may not fall under equivalence of exchange or interchangeable.

Cloaking will not work for either. Their perceptive abilities are too vast to keep each other out of the radar.

Hypnosis depending on how its being applied can be a form of ESP. In this case, because Super Kl'rt is projecting a mental wave, and identifies it as a power, it falls as one of the many psychic powers.

Droidtastic shields would block hard psi, and hard physical force. The shields are designed as so. Meaning Psychadelic would not phase through it, even in energy form. I am not convinced Psychadelic could drain the shields, given that they are an exotic form of energy, outside of Dr. Lights influence.

I did not see anything on how Droidtastic would be able to harm Psychadelic in his energy form. Scoobs made a point of how Light was being beaten, and harmed. But that was in his physical form. Likewise there was no claim, or proof in on behalf of Scoob showing he could force Psychadelic into human form, and beat on him. Therefore his point was a wash.
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The match seemed even to me. With either side unable to reach, or harm each other. However the argument was brought up on the effectiveness of Telepathy over Droidtastic.

Scoobs pointed out that invisible shields would hold off TP. But Existere, refuted by pointing out that the piece of evidence is invalid, due to Jean not having TP at the time. No other scans claiming the same where submitted. Only hard psy, which is not the same as soft psy for which telepathy falls under.

Scoobs pointed out that Vision was immune to telepathy. Therefore Droidtastic would be immune as well. But later on admits that the Old hag took down Vision, and the Avengers with her psi-powers. Which makes his point conflicting, if not confusing.

Lastly Vision may (or may not) be immune to telepathy. But his character is an amalgam, of Machine & Flesh. Therefore I would treat his amalgam as so. At best Droidstatic would benefit from protection, but not an outright immunity to telepathy. And as such, Existere pointed out that Betsy has taken out plenty of Techno-Organic life forms including some really nasty ones with protection or shielding like:
Angel with the power of the Death-Seed
Arkea/Omega Sentinal
Cable, Fantomex, Meme, etc..(that is a monstrous feat)


I reward the match to Existere. Psychadelic superior speed, and reflexes insures that his telepathy would shut down Droidtastic in the opening bell.

Winner: Existere - Psychadelic

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Newjak wrote on Apr 1st, 2015 07:16 PM:
Scoobs did a good job of showing that Vision's mind is telepathic resistance.
I don't think based on the evidence presented that Light has light speed reactions. Does he have good travel speed yes but Scoob's raised valid concerns and scans showing that Light may not be that fast. - Scoobs

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abhilegend wrote on Apr 5th, 2015 01:23 AM:
I was convinced by Smurph that Psylocke can affect Vision
his attempts to show Dr. Light's speed is slow was strange - Smurf.

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Charlotte DeBel wrote on Mar 30th, 2015 09:13 AM:
NO showings of energy drain from solid Doctor Light - Scoobless

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"Id" wrote on Apr 9th, 2015 02:35 PM:
I did not see anything on how Droidtastic would be able to harm Psychadelic in his energy form.

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"Id" wrote on Apr 9th, 2015 02:35 PM:
Super Kl'rt is projecting a mental wave, and identifies it as a power, it falls as one of the many psychic powers.

Scoobs pointed out that Vision was immune to telepathy. Therefore Droidtastic would be immune as well. But later on admits that the Old hag took down Vision, and the Avengers with her psi-powers. Which makes his point conflicting, if not confusing -Existere

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Originally posted by abhilegend
What can I say, If you want to compare my vote to Newjak, it's not really fair to Newjak.

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Originally posted by Newjak
Bring Abhi I will out judge you all day everyday